Thursday, May 21, 2015

OSAS by any other name is still OSAS.

  1. ROBERT February 12, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    Of course Calvinism affirms they are the same group. That would be what sets Calvinism apart from Romanism, not the notion that if the elect are saved they will persevere to the end.
    OSAS by any other name is still OSAS.
    Thanks for admitting your lie about the Catholic Doctrine of Election, also.
  2. Michael Taylor asks:

    Which version of the Vulgate to you have in mind? The one with 151 psalms or 150? The one with the books of Esdras or the one without it?

    This one:
    Trent IV

    It has thought it proper, moreover, to insert in this decree a list of the sacred books, lest a doubt might arise in the mind of someone as to which are the books received by this council.[4]

    They are the following:
    Of the Old Testament, the five books of Moses, namely, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy; Josue, Judges, Ruth, the four books of Kings, two of Paralipomenon, the first and second of Esdras, the latter of which is called Nehemias, Tobias, Judith, Esther, Job, the Davidic Psalter of 150 Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, the Canticle of Canticles, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Isaias, Jeremias, with Baruch, Ezechiel, Daniel, the twelve minor Prophets, namely, Osee, Joel, Amos, Abdias, Jonas, Micheas, Nahum, Habacuc, Sophonias, Aggeus, Zacharias, Malachias; two books of Machabees, the first and second.

    Of the New Testament, the four Gospels, according to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John; the Acts of the Apostles written by Luke the Evangelist; fourteen Epistles of Paul the Apostle, to the Romans, two to the Corinthians, to the Galatians, to the Ephesians, to the Philippians, to the Colossians, two to the Thessalonians, two to Timothy, to Titus, to Philemon, to the Hebrews; two of Peter the Apostle, three of John the Apostle, one of James the Apostle, one of Jude the Apostle, and the Apocalypse of John the Apostle.

    (Memory could be fuzzy here, but I’m pretty sure there was a bit of variation in the canon based on the Vulgate. But why the Vulgate in the first place? Regardless of the precise canonical history of the Vulgate, how do you know it is the norm for the canon? Is it not because Rome says so? And so why do you believe Rome?)

    Because Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church and declared her infallible.

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