tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3718587517246704099.post718478183861420244..comments2024-03-24T20:13:25.074-06:00Comments on Pray! : And faith must first change you into a person who will work in love BEFORE it will save you.De Mariahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00997195004868253348noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3718587517246704099.post-5832870640870737772015-07-16T12:22:37.713-05:002015-07-16T12:22:37.713-05:00Thanks. I'm stills searching for St. Augustine...Thanks. I'm stills searching for St. Augustine's quote but I'm finding EARLIER Church Fathers who said it nearly two hundred years before Augustine! <br /><br />I just can't believe that TF never even mentioned when the doctrine was established, which would have proven the point itself! What's wrong with these people?Mark Thimeschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11121786376695375337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3718587517246704099.post-63067740142279324592015-07-16T11:40:03.746-05:002015-07-16T11:40:03.746-05:00Thanks. Found it, here.
You made a good point. ...Thanks. Found it, <a href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6422857&postID=3731867669991828157&page=1&token=1437064602512" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br /><br />You made a good point. I tried to corral him a bit to address your argument.<br /><br />De Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997195004868253348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3718587517246704099.post-83535666766494972122015-07-16T08:56:14.488-05:002015-07-16T08:56:14.488-05:00http://socrates58.blogspot.com/
The discussion is...http://socrates58.blogspot.com/<br /><br />The discussion is under the very first posting PROVING THE CATHOLIC FAITH IS BIBLICAL. It's a promo for Dave's book. You'll see 16 comments way down below.<br /><br />I've found some sources and I'm going to prove TF never even bothered to verify and simply made assumptions.Mark Thimeschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11121786376695375337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3718587517246704099.post-5108363398986321562015-07-15T18:50:38.516-05:002015-07-15T18:50:38.516-05:00I searched for it but couldn't find the discus...I searched for it but couldn't find the discussion. Can you provide a link?De Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997195004868253348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3718587517246704099.post-33667699032694926022015-07-14T18:33:29.291-05:002015-07-14T18:33:29.291-05:00Well, I'm responding to Ken Temple's bogus...Well, I'm responding to Ken Temple's bogus accusations over at Dave Armstrong's site. I've asked Ken for TF to provide the names of any forensic librarians, accredited historians, linguistic scholars, or any qualified individuals who can give credence to this claim.<br /><br />I also pointed out the Scripture itself, calls Mary The Mother of God when St. Elizabeth asks her question to Mary. Of course, his argument is that "it doesn't say God and doesn't say anything about Mary's divinity"....sigghhhhhh.. Amazing how the anti-Catholics just won't listen to what the Church REALLY teaches, as opposed to what they "think" she teaches. <br /><br />Their sole source of what they "think" the Catholic Church teaches is the examples and responses of bad and ignorant Catholics.<br /><br />The time has come that Our Faith be tried and tested.<br /><br />God Bless and keep "fighting the good fight"Mark Thimeschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11121786376695375337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3718587517246704099.post-19962617996430609492015-07-14T15:12:04.153-05:002015-07-14T15:12:04.153-05:00Yep. TF does it all the time and when he's dis...Yep. TF does it all the time and when he's disproved, he simply shrugs.<br /><br />Bottomline:<br /><br />TF denies that this reference is not authentic. Who are we to believe, Ancient Catholics who lived much closer to St. Augustine's time? Or a modern anti-Catholic who denies ANY Catholic Doctrine was espoused by the early Christians?<br /><br />Also, what's his point? That one early Church Father never used the term "Mother of God"? Did he simply ditch all the others?<br /><br />What does he do with the Council of Ephesus?De Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997195004868253348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3718587517246704099.post-70535676313831050162015-07-14T12:03:33.393-05:002015-07-14T12:03:33.393-05:00Speaking of "cherry picking" ECF....
Tu...Speaking of "cherry picking" ECF....<br /><br />Turrentinfan has posted an interesting blog attacking (I believe) an article by Dave Armstrong, in which he claims to have evidence that Augustine's Sermon 208 doesn't contain the words "Mother of God". So far, I have not found anything to dispute this but what I have found is that there are multiple sites that have "categorized" Augustine's works differently. <br /><br />I've found the book that turrentinfan claims to have used and I can't find the substitute sermon he claims (208a). In fact, I can't find that sermon number anywhere and I'm wondering where he got that. He is also claiming that Catholics claim St. Augustine wrote that for the Feast of the Immaculate Conception but I know that isn't correct either. He's distorting truth but revealing half-truths at the same time.Mark Thimeschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11121786376695375337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3718587517246704099.post-89776323765533159552015-07-14T09:47:05.728-05:002015-07-14T09:47:05.728-05:00They do that with everything. They cherry pick ve...They do that with everything. They cherry pick verses from the Early Church Fathers which say "faith alone" but neglect the ones that say, "faith and works".De Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997195004868253348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3718587517246704099.post-67460946981553917792015-07-14T09:19:30.649-05:002015-07-14T09:19:30.649-05:00I noticed TS didn't high-lite the most importa...I noticed TS didn't high-lite the most important sentence from Pope Em. Benedict's words, that being THE VERY LAST SENTENCE.<br /><br />He/she simply highlighted the Scriptural passages as if they were telling the true content of what Benedict was trying to say. It's not.<br /><br />See why we Catholics have to double check the sources produced by some Protestants?<br /><br />God BlessMark Thimeschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11121786376695375337noreply@blogger.com