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Wednesday, May 22, 2013

Christ established a Church


De Maria said:
Christ established a Church. Commanded the Church to teach His Traditions and the Church, by the authority given by Jesus Christ, teaches the Traditions by word and epistle to this very day:

Matthew 28:19-20
King James Version (KJV)

19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

2 Thessalonians 2:15
King James Version (KJV)

15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
Lutero said:
Was their oral teachings the content that would become Scripture? Since they had not yet committed all their teachings to writing, it was necessary to depend on their oral teaching. Once the apostles committed all their teachings to writing, then the Bible alone became our authority for faith and practice (2 Timothy 3:16-17).  So what extra Biblical teachings that you call "tradition" do you feel are so important for the rest of us to hold to?
De Maria:
2 Tim 3:16-17 does not say anything about the need to stop oral teaching when the Bible is written. In fact, it says the opposite. It says the Bible is "profitable for teaching".

2 Timothy 3:16

King James Version (KJV)

16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


The emphais in the entire epistle of 2 Tim is oral teaching. Read the whole thing:
Chapter 1:
11Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.
12For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
13Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

Chapter 2:
2 Timothy 2

1Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.
2And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.

Chapter 3, see above comment on verses 16-17.

Chapter 4:
2 Timothy 4

1I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.



There is no mention in any of that epistle or throughout the Bible that the Church should ever stop oral teaching.

Matthew 28:19-20

King James Version (KJV)

19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Ephesians 3:10

King James Version (KJV)

10To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,


So what extra Biblical teachings that you call "tradition" do you feel are so important for the rest of us to hold to?
Extra Biblical? None. All Catholic doctrine is in Scripture explicitly taught or implied.

The difference between Catholic doctrine and Protestant doctrine, is that Protestants hold EXTRA BIBLICAL doctrines, such as this one of yours by which you claim that oral tradition is to cease. Scripture says nothing of the sort.

In fact, Scripture says that Scripture is PROFITABLE for passing on Oral Tradition. Remember, Jesus neither wrote one word of Scripture nor commanded the writing of Scripture. He commanded that His words be TAUGHT. He never said, "stop teaching when the Bible is written."

Sincerely,

De Maria



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