Your not explaining why you believe in such a thing.

Lutero said:

Hi,

Here's something Cat wrote in support of you in this same topic:

Your not explaining why you believe in such a thing. Is there nothing at all you can give me for support?

The reason everyone else ignored your question is because it was loaded with false assumptions. In essence, it was a "straw man" argument. But I did respond, I said:


That's not what Cat meant. What he meant is that the Jews ATE the lamb and in so doing consummated the Passover sacrifice. That is why St. Paul says:

1 Corinthians 5:7-8
King James Version (KJV)
7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Because in eating the Eucharist, we consummate the Christian Passover.

I'll be curious to see how well you understand the Jews.

Much better than you.

Will you engage my argument?

Cat may be snatching all this from out of the fog... where is your supporting evidence that makes you believe... or do you just trust others without any evidence whatsoever?

Why should we trust you when we have a Church which Scripture calls the Pillar of Truth (1 Tim 3:15)?

Please be informed that the historic Jews of past and even present never considered the Lamb transubstantiated,

Who said they did besides you? Please provide the quote.

nor considered the consumption of the Lamb salvific.

They certainly did consider it salvific. If they didn't eat the lamb, they would be cutoff from the people of God. Is that salvific enough for you?
Numbers 9:13

King James Version (KJV)
¹³ But the man that is clean, and is not in a journey, and forbeareth to keep the passover, even the same soul shall be cut off from among his people: because he brought not the offering of the Lord in his appointed season, that man shall bear his sin.

All signs point to their obedience in the word of God towards proving their faith.... and through this faith they were carried by the Grace of God.

Amen! And that obedience included eating the Passover and keeping the Assembly, which you neglect on both counts:
Hebrews 10:25-31

King James Version (KJV)
²⁵ Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
²⁶ For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
²⁷ But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
²⁸ He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
²⁹ Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
³⁰ For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
³¹ It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

The Passover was never ever considered magic or a miracle (whatever you prefer).

No more magical than all the miracles of God. Did you not read how the Angel of God PASSED OVER the Jews who kept the Passover and destroyed the first born of the Egyptians?

Who is misrepresenting what now?

You are misrepresenting what Doghouse said.

Please discuss this further.

I'm looking forward to it.

The very best to you!

And to you!

Sincerely,

De Maria