Moses and the Old Testament

Hi Louie,
I am a devout Catholic. I disagree with your claim that the tradition of the Jews disagreed with the Old Testament Bible. Your logic is flawed and your interpretation about what Jesus said is simply wrong.

First of all, the only part of the Old Testament that was written by God was the Ten Commandments which He wrote in His own hand, on a stone.

The rest were transmitted by word FIRST and then were written down, much later. If you read the text in context, you see that some of the writings attributed to Moses could not have been written by Moses since they were writing about the time when he died.

Deuteronomy 34:7
And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.

Therefore, except for the Ten Commandments, the rest of the Old Testament was first taught by word, handed down in tradition and then written down. And it was taught by Word and by Scripture through the centuries. Simultaneously. Just as the Catholic Church continues to do so today.

Leviticus 10:10-12
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10 And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean;
11 And that ye may teach the children of Israel all the statutes which the Lord hath spoken unto them by the hand of Moses.
12 And Moses spake unto Aaron, and unto Eleazar and unto Ithamar, his sons that were left, Take the meat offering that remaineth of the offerings of the Lord made by fire, and eat it without leaven beside the altar: for it is most holy:

Sincerely,

De Maria

Martin Luther said, "My judgment is not mine but God's".

In a discussion with a Protestant on this forum, he challenged me to prove that Luther (and Calvin, but we’ll stick to Luther in this article), wanted to be seen as the new infallible Leader of Christ’s Church. 
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But the parents do have faith

VR:
I don't accept "faith alone." I agree with Jesus in Mark 16:16. Children have no faith.  Therefore they can't believe and be baptized in order to be saved.

But the parents which brought them to be baptized and receive eternal life in the name of Christ do have faith. So, do you believe that God will turn away a parent who has brought his child to Him to be saved:

Matthew 15:21-28
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21 Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon.


22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.


23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.


24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.


26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.


27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.


28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

Matthew 9:18-25
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18 While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.


19 And Jesus arose, and followed him, and so did his disciples.


20 And, behold, a woman, which was diseased with an issue of blood twelve years, came behind him, and touched the hem of his garment:


21 For she said within herself, If I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole.


22 But Jesus turned him about, and when he saw her, he said, Daughter, be of good comfort; thy faith hath made thee whole. And the woman was made whole from that hour.


23 And when Jesus came into the ruler's house, and saw the minstrels and the people making a noise,


24 He said unto them, Give place: for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn.


25 But when the people were put forth, he went in, and took her by the hand, and the maid arose.

If Jesus were before you, would you hesitate to bring your child to Him because your child can not yet exercise the grace of faith? Read the Scripture, perhaps you missed it:

Matthew 19:14

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¹⁴ But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Sincerely,

De Maria

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Together we confess: By grace alone

Together we confess: By grace alone

These words are found in the “JOINT DECLARATION ON THE DOCTRINE OF JUSTIFICATION” by the Lutheran World Federation and the Catholic Church. Apparently, based upon these words, many Catholics are beginning to say that the Catholic Church teaches salvation by grace alone. I beg to differ. 
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For the promise is unto you, and to your children

VR:

You are right, He did say that, but He also said that those to be baptized must believe as well:

"He believes and is baptized will be saved, he who does not believe is condemned already." (Mark 16:16)

You read the Scriptures in isolation of other Scriptures which speak on the same matter. Acts 2 says:

Acts 2:38-40
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38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.


40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Now, we notice that when parents brought their children to Jesus for healing, Jesus said:

Matthew 15:28
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28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

Now, its just as easy for Christ to heal one of sins as it is for Him to heal one of illness:

Matthew 9:5
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5 For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk?

Therefore Scripture shows that Christ will accept the faith of the parent in lieu of the faith of the child.

But if you want to believe that God will send an innocent child to hell, go right ahead. We believe that God is merciful and loving.

Sincerely,

De Maria

What is your excuse for casting the Church aside?

RC: 

The Roman Catholic Church believes it is her duty to discern the revelation of God to her people.

Who does this for you? You yourself?

Prot: 

How can you ask such an inane question? Have you not read the very words of Jesus to His believers: "... but you're advocate the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you everything, and will call to mind all that I have told you."

Do you pick and choose your Scriptures? Do you pit one Scripture against another? For Scripture says:

Hebrews 13:7

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⁷ Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

Hebrews 13:17

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¹⁷ Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Correlating the Scriptures, it is obvious that God is telling us that He will teach us through the Church and through other believers:

Romans 10:14

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¹⁴ How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

what is your excuse for casting the Church aside?

Matthew 18:17

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¹⁷ And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Sincerely,

De Maria

Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church

First off, I want to thank all who participated in the “Does the Bible say that missing the Mass is a mortal sin?” thread.

One of the things which was brought up by one of the Protestants in that thread is this idea that St. Constantine started the Catholic Church. But, is that true? Why do Protestants make this claim?

The short answer, “I don’t know.” The claim is patently false and can be proven directly from the New Testament. And, although the Bible was not put together until after St. Constantine’s death, yet the New Testament was already written although not compiled.

And while the name, “Catholic Church” is not written in those pages, yet, the Catholic Church is therein described. And if the Catholic Church is described in the New Testament, then it must be the Church established by Jesus Christ. AND, lest we forget, what we don’t find is any of the Protestant denominations there mentioned. Nor any of their doctrines. Without further ado, let's see what Scripture says.

First, Jesus Christ appointed a Pastor as head of the entire Church: 
John 21:17 
He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of John, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

I see only a few Churches with such a Pastor. Further, Jesus Christ said that the Pastor over His Church would be infallible:

Matthew 16:17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

The list of Churches accept this teaching gets smaller. Certainly, all Protestant denominations can now be eliminated.

Jesus Christ not only said that the Pastor was infallible but Scripture describes the Church as infallible: 
Ephesians 3:10 
To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

The list remains the same, but now I can certainly eliminate all Protestant denominations.

Back to Matt 16:18, Scripture says that Jesus Christ established one Church. History shows that all the Churches sprang from the Church which is frequently described as the Mother Church. The Catholic Church.

So, even using just a few verses we can eliminate the Protestants. None of their denominations even come close to being in Scripture. But we can continue to find Catholic indicators throughout the Bible:

The Church which is infallible (1 Tim 3:15; Eph 3:10).
The Church which is united (Eph 4:5).
The doctrines of the Catholic Church which are distinctive from other churches:
Purgatory (1 Cor 3:15).
Eucharist (1 Cor 11:23-27).
Communion of Saints (Rom 12:12-20).
The Mass and the necessity to attend (Heb 10:25-31).
The Sacrament of Confession (Heb 13:17).
The Sacrament of Holy Orders (1 Tim 4:14).
The Sacrament of Baptism (Titus 3:5).
Justification and salvation by faith and works (Rom 2:1-13).

And we find that the Protestant doctrinal pillars all contradict Scripture. For instance:

Sola Scriptura contradicts 2 Thess 2:152 Thessalonians 2:15
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15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

Sola Fide contradicts James 2:24
James 2:24
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24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

OSAS contradicts Heb 6:4-6
Hebrews 6:4-6
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4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Salvation by grace alone contradicts:
Philippians 2:12
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

and also:

Romans 6:16
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Every Protestant doctrine which contradicts the Catholic Church also contradicts the Word of God in the Bible.

So, the fact that Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church is recorded in the New Testament. And Protestants nor their doctrines are anywhere to be found in those venerable pages.