Bob said:Celibacy was a later development in the RCC.
Correct. 1 Cor 7:32 is the basis for that change.
Paul lays out in 1 Tim 3 the qualifications for church leadership and part of it was to be a man who was married with children.
And yet St. Paul was not a man who was married with children. Did he thereby disqualify himself?
And what about our model and example? Jesus Christ Himself. Was He inadequate for the job because He was not married with children.
You see how Protestants cut off their nose to spite their face? If unmarried men are not qualified to run the Church, they disqualify several of the cornerstones of our Faith. Jesus, John the Evangelist, St. Paul.
Revelation 14:3-5
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3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
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3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
Bob said,
You asked, What is the definition for Sola Scriptura?
That's right. So, you tell me, from Scripture.
Sola Fide= we are saved alone by faith alone in Christ alone. Gal 2:16 and Eph 2:8-9
Show me that statement in Scripture. Because Scripture says:
James 2:24
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24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
James 2:24
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24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Therefore that statement contradicts the Word of God.
Galatians 2:16
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16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
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16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
This does not say “faith IN Christ”. It says “faith OF Christ”. The faith of Christ is the Christianity. The rituals and doctrines which He established to be passed down by His Church.
Therefore, St. Paul is contrasting the Jewish faith and the Christian faith. We are not justified nor was anyone every justified by the Jewish faith. That is why, in another place, he says:
Hebrews 11:40
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40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
Hebrews 11:40
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40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
In other words, without us, they would not be justified.
Ephesians 2:8-9
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8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
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8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
In order to understand this one fully, we need one more verse:
Ephesians 2:10
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10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Ephesians 2:10
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10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
Faith is a grace.
Romans 4:16
Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace;….
Faith is a grace.
Romans 4:16
Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace;….
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
God gives us this grace. It is the first grace which God gives us because without faith we can’t please Him. And faith is a very special type of grace. It is a grace which must be exercised. Faith ALONE is dead (James 2:17).
God gives us this grace. It is the first grace which God gives us because without faith we can’t please Him. And faith is a very special type of grace. It is a grace which must be exercised. Faith ALONE is dead (James 2:17).
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Therefore we can’t boast that we made ourselves faithful nor that we saved ourselves.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Now, we are ALL created in Christ when we are conceived. Christ has created all that is in creation:
John 1:3
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3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:3
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3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
and we were all made to do good. We were all made to keep the Commandments.
Romans 2:14-16
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14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Romans 2:14-16
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14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
God gave this command from before time began. We were made for God. We were made to be righteous. This is why we are justified by DOING the faith OF Christ.
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