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Christians Truth said...I said: My reply: You need to clarify what you mean by “watching over us.” Watching us and watching OVER us are two different things.
I did. I set them out separately so that you could reply to both. Here they are again, unless you are afraid to respond, please do:
Scripture says that the Saints are watching us. Do you deny this?
Or do you deny that Scripture says that the Saints are watching over us.
Which do you deny?
You said: Either one will do in this case. My reply: No, either one will not do.
They mean virtually the same thing. But you split hairs. Never mind. Please respond to the question.
You said: Yes, it does. If you understand the Spirit of the Word.
My reply: Surely, your Catholic religion is from Satan.
It is yours which is from Satan. But I don't think that line of argumentation is leading anywhere. We can accuse each other of following demons until we turn blue. So? But if that is all you have left, perhaps it is time to end our conversation? Let me know.
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To whom is this person praying?
Genesis 12:13 Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee. My reply: That is evil for you to think that Genesis 12:13gives us command to pray to others. Genesis 12:13 Say you are my sister, so that I will be treated well for your sake and my life will be spared because of you.”
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Christians Truth said...You said: She is the Mother of God. And mothers love their children more than any other mortal beings. My reply: John 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.
So, you deny that Mother's love their children more than any other human beings?
My reply: God can make children from rocks! In addition, you say you have no idea what I am talking about as for Catholics making Mary as the fourth person, Catholics say that we are to go through Mary to get to Jesus. Catholics say we should go to Mary with our requests to Jesus. That is wickedness from the devil.
Jesus came to us through Mary (Revelation 12:3-5). Jesus gave Mary to us as our Mother (John 19:27) and we who keep the commandments of God and the testimony of Christ are her seed (Rev 12:17)
. My reply: Are you just asking ignorant questions to appear smart? Where do you get we cannot be saints? We are not the Apostles.
But we are the followers of the Apostles (John 17:20).
My reply: I do not add to God’s word. Show one thing I added to God’s word, you cannot show any such thing.
Sure I can and have. You claim that Jesus forbid the calling of priest's "father". Where it is clear that even the Apostles considered themselves our fathers. And they called many men "father". Even their own brothers. But you make up a new invention based upon your ignorance of Tradition and claim that is the Word of God. It is not.
My reply: You cannot add to God’s word, nor can your popes.
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Christian Truth said: My reply: Peter means little rock, not the exact name of Jesus.
It doesn't mean little rock, actually. The fact is that "petra" is the feminine word for rock. And "petros" is the masculine word for rock, in Greek. St. Matthew used the word "petros" because Peter is a man. However, everyone agrees and Scripture indicates that Jesus did not speak to them in Greek. Jesus named Simon, "Cephas", which is the only way to say "Rock" in Aramaic (John 1:42).
And we can begin to show then, that Jesus named Simon after Himself, as He is the Rock. Do you deny it? Let me show you.
Jesus said:
Matthew 16 18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
But let us proceed to prove that Peter represents God.
Is Moses God? Of course not. But what did God say?
Exodus 7 1 And the Lord said to Moses: Behold I have appointed thee the God of Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
Why did God call Moses God? Because He appointed Moses as His representative before Pharoah and the people:
Exodus 19 9 The Lord said to him: Lo, now will I come to thee in the darkness of a cloud, that the people may hear me speaking to thee, and may believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people to the Lord.
And what did God do in the New Testament? God also selected a man to represent Him. Simon Bar-Jonah.
Matthew 16 18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Who is the Rock?
1 Corinthians 10 4 And all drank the same spiritual drink; (and they drank of the spiritual rock that followed them, and the rock was Christ.
Christ is the Rock!
And the Rock turned to Simon and said, "YOU ARE ROCK and on this Rock I will build my Church"
So God gave Simon the name that represents God.
2 Kings 22 2 And he said: The Lord is my rock, and my strength, and my saviour.
Why? Because Simon now represents God before men.
Therefore Jesus also gave Him the keys to the Kingdom:
Matthew 16 19 And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.
Thereby giving Simon the authority to save. He can open and close the door to heaven, therefore, he can save.
And so, the Pope, the successor of Peter, is the representative of God before His People.
Therefore, you see, Christ named Simon after Himself and left Him in charge of His Church. That office is passed down to the Popes to this day.
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The authority Jesus gave to his Apostles are not given to your popes.
Sure it is.
My reply: You are a false judge. Jesus called them hypocrites. I added nothing.
Jesus called the Pharisees hypocrites. Not the Apostles nor the Bishops.
My reply: I only follow the Word of God. You follow evil sinful men who call themselves “Holy Father.” Even you call them “Holy Father.” You need to repent! I am showing you the truth, and if you reject the truth it is on you.
I'll let the reader decide between you and I.
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Christians Truth said...My reply: I follow the Word of God.
You follow your own interprettations.
I am not the only one who knows the truth. You are wicked to think of such a thing.
Point to someone in the Church who believes as you do. You don't agree with the Reformers. You don't agree with the Early Church Fathers. You seem to have popped out of nowhere.
My reply: I only speak of the written word of God.
You don't understand the written Word of God.
My reply: It is about fleeing from idolatry. 14 Therefore, my dear friends, flee from idolatry. 15 I speak to sensible people; judge for yourselves what I say. 16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? 17 Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf.
Thanks for posting that. You have proven yourself that it is about the Body and Blood of the Lord in the Holy Eucharist.
My reply: I proved to you that Paul was not talking about not gathering. Paul is telling the people to meet to tell each other about sins they need to stop doing, because to continue to sin is wrong.
On the contrary, I proved to you that St. Paul is precisely talking about the Mass.
My reply: You cannot hide behind the pope.
You can't hide your contempt for the Word of God. Scripture tells you to obey those whom God placed over you and you reject His Word.
My reply: I did not find God’s truth until I left the Catholic religion and began to obey God’s written word. Jesus Christ himself saved me.
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My reply: You said God has revealed Himself to you in the Eucharist; however, what you say is not biblical. Jesus says he reveals himself to those who obey his teachings.
John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. My reply: Your priests offer incense to statues that cannot speak, hear, move, or think!
We know the difference between a statue and God.
Sincerely,
De Maria
Washed, Sanctified and Justified in the Sacraments of the Catholic Church.
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I will use your discussion with Christian Truth for my bible study tomorrow. Thanks for putting it up again.
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I'll be praying for a mutually beneficial discussion. May you and they become great friends and increase in admiration for each other. God bless you.
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De Maria
Thank you De Maria, you are so kind!.
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