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Christians Truth said...My reply: There is no doubt that the Catholics go against the commands of God, doing things that God says not to.
It is you who go against God.
In the rest of this message, we simply say things we've said over and over. Obviously, we disagree on nearly everything. I stand by my words as i'm sure you stand by yours. Let the read decide with whom they identify. But there is no need to continue repeating the same things.
In that regard, I will attempt to identify those things we haven't discussed and focus upon them.
Sincerely,
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You replied: Scripture does NOT elevate Mary. Mary is blessed AMONG WOMEN, NOT above women. Mary would not want to be exalted in such a way. In fact, a woman in the crowd called out, "Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you." Jesus replied, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it." See Luke 11:27-28. Does that sound like Jesus wanted Mary exalted to the level that the Catholic Church has exalted her? No. Someone told Jesus, "Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to see you." Jesus replied, "My mother and brothers are those who hear God's word and put it into practice." See Luke 8:20-21. Does it sound like Jesus wants us to elevate and worship his mother? No! CASE CLOSED.
You're funny. Obviously, you don't understand the Word of God. Let me explain:
Scripture says that God's will should be done on earth as it is in heaven.
And God wills that the Angels praise Mary:
Luke 1:
26And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, 27To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. 28And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
Let's break this down:
ANGEL GABRIEL
1. an angel is a messenger of God. That is what the word, angel, means.
2. this angel, Gabriel, is one of the four angels that stands before the throne of God.
WAS SENT FROM GOD
1. God sent this angel to Mary.
2. Since this angel is a messenger of God's, God sent Him to deliver a message.
3. Therefore, the angel was not speaking on his own, but was communicating God's message to Mary.
4. If we skip down to verse 28, we see that this was a message of praise (i.e. blessed art thou).
5. Therefore God praised Mary through His Angel.
That is great praise indeed. Do you know of any man whose praise is worth more than God's? In other words, what do you value more highly, the praise of man or the praise of God?
But, there's more. God sent the Angel to do His Will. What is His Will. Obviously, God sent the Angel to deliver a message of praise. Therefore it is God's will that the Angels praise Mary.
And there's yet more. Because the Holy Spirit inspired a holy woman to exclaim, ""Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! - still in Luke chapter 1: 41And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: 42And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. 43And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy. 45And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.ReplyDelete
Should we break this down?
1. The Holy Spirit is God the Third Person of the Holy Trinity.
2. Therefore, God inspired Elisabeth to praise Mary.
3. This praise is inscribed in the Word of God for all generations.
4. Since Elisabeth is a member of the human race, then it is safe to conclude that God wills that men praise Mary.
5. And we find, again, that God praised Mary through His Saint. Saint Elisabeth praised Mary when she was inspired by the Holy Spirit to do so. That means that it is the Holy Spirit's praise which she passed on. That is why Scripture is called the Word of God. Because it is inspired by the Holy Spirit.
Need we say more? Let's do it anyway.
Scripture says: Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Thus, God wills that mankind PRAISE Mary. This is confirmed by Mary herself when she says, "From now on all generations will call me blessed (Luke 1:48)."
Obviously, it is God who elevates Mary in Scripture. Why don't you?
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Christian Truth said: My reply: No longer bow down to the work of your hands (see Micah 5:13). Exodus 20: 4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. CASE CLOSED.
Still wrong. We don't bow to the work of our hands, but to God's work in the Saints which He created. My reply: So, are you saying you do not believe any one is in heaven with Jesus now?
No. Those who died in a perfect state of grace, such as Mary and the Saints, are indeed with Jesus now.
As for you saying , “At the Great White Throne Judgment. Nothing impure will enter heaven.” WE DO NOT LIVE IN HEAVEN AFTER THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT! HEAVEN AND EARTH PASSES AWAY, AND GOD WILL MAKE THE EARTH NEW, AND WE WILL LIVE WITH GOD AND JESUS ON THE NEW EARTH.
Where God is, there is heaven.
Sincerely,
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Christians Truth said... My reply: You are using 1 Corinthians 3:10-15 to support purgatory?
1 Cor 3:10-15 explains Purgatory.
However, you then say it is about the end of the world, The Great White Throne Judgment. Clarify what you mean before I continue to discuss this part with you.
Purgatory is the state where those who die with an impure soul, but which love God, will undergo purification so that they may enter the heavenly realm on the day of Judgment. Is that enough clarification?
My reply: I am in heaven with Jesus. You, your ignorance, and all of your wicked religion cannot take me out of God’s hand.
As Scripture shows, your claim to be with Jesus is not enough. You must obey Him. And judging from your non-comprehension of Scripture, you are not doing a good job of that. However, that is not to say that you don't have good will. And Scripture says that men of good will, will be saved. But only as though fire.
Christians Truth said...Continued... My reply: Why are you bringing this up? This does not explain what you said. Let me ask you, do you take the eye from someone who takes yours? Do you take the tooth from someone who has taken yours? Do you believe Christians have to be circumcised? Do you believe we can be judged by what we eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day?
Jesus has clarified those beliefs. The law of the Commandments is the Law of Love. We who keep the Commandments are we who love God, who are seed of the Woman and who have the testimony of Jesus ever on our lips.
Sincerely,
De Maria
Washed, Sanctified and Justified in the Sacraments of the Catholic Church.
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