Wednesday, August 20, 2014

Why don't you accept the authority of the Church as instructed by the Scriptures?



Lutero:
Thank you for explaining it better than I. Notice how when we steadfastly point to the Scriptures and show from those Scriptures that they are the true authority, then comes the Catholic questions designed to cast doubts and herd you to the RCC: where in the NT does it tell us the NT is the word of God and more idiotic questions designed to castigate God's word and uphold the "authority" of Catholicism. Pathetic.
He asked a simple question. Why didn't you answer it? Is it because you don't know?

Here, let me show you where it says so:

I believe this verse compares the NT to the OT and says that the Christian Church possesses a more sure word of Prophecy. Therefore, if the OT is inspired, the NT is even more inspired.
2 Peter 1:19

King James Version (KJV)

19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

In addition, we have St. Paul saying:
2 Corinthians 3:6

King James Version (KJV)

Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Note also how St. Peter compared St. Paul's epistles to the "other" Scriptures.

2 Peter 3:16

King James Version (KJV)

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

With that in mind, I believe Scripture tells us that the New Testament is inspired.

Now, let me ask you, why do you diss the Church? Scripture is clear that the Church is also authoritative:
Matthew 18:17

King James Version (KJV)

17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

And also the Priests and Bishops whom God appointed to rule over our souls:
Hebrews 13:17

King James Version (KJV)

17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Why don't you accept the authority of the Church as instructed by the Scriptures?

Sincerely,

De Maria

Tuesday, August 19, 2014

She began to notice the error and confusion being taught outside the Catholic Church


Nova
She said:
I resolved to keep an open mind, but it did not take me long to conclude that, within the paradigms of liberal Christian thought and theological relativism, proclaiming to be a Christian meant very little. It did not necessitate that I believe in the Virgin Birth, the literal resurrection of Christ, or in His divinity. I met a man in Protestant seminary who did not even consider belief in God, or any "Supreme Being" for that matter, a requisite to Christianity. The ridiculousness and incongruity of it all was not lost upon me. Even still, I dutifully continued to question my own faith. I had, after all, been assured that the majority of beliefs and hopes to which I held and scriptures in which I had found comfort were ignorant, oppressive, and self-serving.

Good point. In other words, it was not simply what she found within the Catholic Church. But first of all, she began to notice the error and confusion being taught outside the Catholic Church. When she turned to the Catholic Church, she found within it, the Biblical Truth.  All we need to do is look at Luther and his willingness to discard 12 books from the Scripture.  Obviously, he did not believe in the infallibility nor in the inerrancy of the Word of God.  Protestantism follows Luther's example.  Protestants put their own opinions over the Word of God.

The above is from her writing, but there are RC's who dont believe that stuff above also. she is just kidding herself. How she could think RC doctrines are in line with the Bible is beyond me.
Anytime you want, we can compare your nonCatholic beliefs to Scripture and Catholic beliefs to Scripture. Let's begin with these two.

Protestants say, "Reject Traditions!" Scripture says:

2 Thessalonians 2:15

King James Version (KJV)

15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

Protestants say, "Justification by faith alone!" Scripture says:

James 2:24

King James Version (KJV)

24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

You got any you want to mention?

Sincerely,

De Maria

Monday, August 18, 2014

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Provide a verse which says that the NT is inspired



Lutero:
Are you stating that you examined the uninspired word of God?
He is asking you to provide, from Scripture, a verse which says that the NT is inspired. If you don't know, I'll provide it for the edification of my Catholic brother.

Hermano:
... having examined the word of God ...and tell us where does it say that the NT is the inspired word of God.
I believe this verse compares the NT to the OT and says that the Christian Church possesses a more sure word of Prophecy. Therefore, if the OT is inspired, the NT is even more inspired.
2 Peter 1:19

King James Version (KJV)

19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

In addition, we have St. Paul saying:
2 Corinthians 3:6

King James Version (KJV)

Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.


Note also how St. Peter compared St. Paul's epistles to the "other" Scriptures.

2 Peter 3:16

King James Version (KJV)

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

With that in mind, I believe Scripture tells us that the New Testament is inspired.

Sincerely,

De Maria

Sunday, August 17, 2014

We partake of the Divine Nature in the Eucharist


Luther:
2 Peter 1:4

2 Peter 1 is about the prophesies of scripture and not about the eucharist.
Why do you purposely quote scripture out of context
or is it because you don't have a clue?
It is you who have no clue. We partake of the Divine Nature in the Eucharist. Have you not read in Scripture?
Revelation 22:14

King James Version (KJV)

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

The "tree of life" is the Eucharist.

Genesis 3:22

King James Version (KJV)

22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:


John 6:51

King James Version (KJV)

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Sincerely,

De Maria

Saturday, August 16, 2014

You are desperately seeking to find something against the Catholic Church



Lutero:
Couldn't Jesus have meant that
if he wasn't utterly destroyed, killed and put to death,
you will have no life in you!
No. Jesus would not leave out His Resurrection. As He said to the Disciples:
Matthew 16:

King James Version (KJV)

20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.



And we are called to remember that by breaking bread
and utterly destroying it be chewing and eating to think of Jesus.
We unite ourselves with Jesus when we eat of Him:
2 Peter 1:4

King James Version (KJV)

Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

You may not like it as it is not Catholic,
but if you were honest you would have to admit that this makes sense.
I believe I'm honest and I know I'm Catholic and I still don't like it. Perhaps, if you were honest, you might admit that you are reaching because you are desperately seeking to find something against the Catholic Church.


That is exactly the point, we agree that it goes further
Your statement goes too far and adds error to the Word of God.

The Semitic idiom actually implies:
To “eat someone’s flesh,” does indeed mean what they say it does;
but it goes further than that. It also means to utterly destroy, to kill, to put to death.
The semitic idiom is used in the context of enemies who hate each other. Jesus is speaking to His disciples, whom He loves and for whom He is giving His life and thus affording them salvation from the Enemy who would utterly destroy them if he could.


Sincerely,

De Maria

Friday, August 15, 2014

7QT's Scripture verses to memorize



These verses have served me well over the years.

Matt 16:18-19

You are Peter and on this Rock I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.


To prove that Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church and the infallibility of the Pope.


Matt 18:17-18

If your brother sins against you, take him to the Church and if he does not listen to the Church, treat him like the heathen.  I will give you the keys to the Kingdom of heaven, what you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, what you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

To prove that the Catholic Church is the visible Church with the authority to discipline those who disobey her commands.

Eph 3:10

The Church will make known the Wisdom of God even in the heavenly places.

To prove that the Catholic Church is the Magisterium or Teacher of the Word of God.

2 Thess 2:15

Hold the Traditions we have given you by word and by Epistle.

To prove that we must hold Sacred Tradition and to disprove the false notion of the Bible alone.

1 Tim 3:15

I will teach you how to behave yourself in the house of God, the Church, the pillar and foundation of the Truth.

To prove the infallibility of the Church.

Romans 2:13

Not the hearers are justified, but the doers of the Law are just before God.

To prove faith and works and disprove the false notion of justification by faith alone.


James 2:24

You see then, that by works a man is justified and not by faith alone.

To prove that faith alone is dead.  Well actually, there's a better one for that:

James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.


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We shall all stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ


Lutero:
Acts 16:31King James Version (KJV)
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
And what did He ask of us? Belief.
But not belief alone.

Then we are not judged.
Show me from Scripture:

Romans 14:10

King James Version (KJV)

10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Thankfully he explained it and never asked us to merely reason it out.
Because, in explaining it, He provided us the reasons.

Lol! Please compare your message to mine. I substantiated all my comments with Scripture. All you do is deny the truth with your empty opinions. Go back to my message and respond to each point, if you can.

Sincerely,

De Maria

Thursday, August 14, 2014

the Catholic Church is keeping hell in a state of siege and in the end, will conquer. It is written.


Lutero:

All that sexual immorality of the papacy
and the murder and torture of your inquisition was not only perfectly acceptable
It still is your teaching as you use words only when you must.
There was no apostasy, they have always been like this!
You believe anti-Catholic propaganda. The fact is, the Catholic Church is the Church which Jesus Christ built. It is the Church of Scripture.

Ephesians 3:10 
To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, 

Is God's Wisdom infallible? I say yes. 

Scripture says that the Church is the pillar and ground of the truth: 
1 Timothy 3:15 
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 

God is here saying that the Church always upholds the truth. I believe God. Therefore, I conclude that the Church is infallible. 

Scripture says: 
Matthew 16:18 
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 

Here the Church is depicted as keeping hell in a state of seige. And further it is said that hell will never prevail against the Church. If the Church committed errors in the mission given her by God, then the gates of hell would have prevailed. 

God says that won't happen. I believe God. Therefore, I conclude that the Church is infallible. 

Does any Protestant denomination accept the Charism of infallibility? No. Therefore they can all be eliminated.

The Church described in Scripture is the Catholic Church.

First, Jesus Christ appointed a Pastor as head of the entire Church: 
John 21:17 
He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. 

I see only a few Churches with such a Pastor. Further, Jesus Christ said that the Pastor over His Church would be infallible: 

Matthew 16:17-19 (King James Version) 
17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 


The list of Churches accept this teaching gets smaller.


Jesus Christ not only said that the Pastor was infallible but Scripture describes the Church as infallible: 
Ephesians 3:10 
To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, 


The list remains the same, but now, again, I can certainly eliminate all Protestant denominations. 


Back to Matt 16:18, Scripture says that Jesus Christ established one Church. History shows that all the Churches sprang from the Church which is frequently described as the Mother Church. The Catholic Church. 


By simple logic of elimination, that leaves only the Catholic Church. Further, the Catholic Church can produce records tracing back to Apostolic times. 


Therefore, I conclude that it is the Catholic Church which is described in Scripture. 

Sincerely,

De Maria