Saved by grace in the Sacraments - 17

 

De Maria

23 hours ago

 JB-@De Maria There is no one on earth who has ever kept the commandments of God DM-when the rich young man said he had kept the Commandments, Jesus didn't say he was lying. JB-because there are a lot more than 10. DM-Jesus reduced them to two. JB-We can't keep them all because we are sinners. Try as you may, you are going to sin. You are going to be out of the will of God sometime. DM-have you ever heard of confession and repentance? Do you believe that God is unmerciful and unforgiving? JB- That's why we pray to Jesus (not priests) to forgive us our sins. DM-Have you ever read this verse? 2 Cor 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. Christ died for sinners. Let's break that down. 1. God has given men the word of reconciliation. 2. Those men beseech you as though God were beseeching you. In other words, they represent God to you. 3. Those men also pray to God for you IN CHRIST'S STEAD. In other words, in the person of Christ. That's all Catholic Teaching. Our priests all represent God for us. Now, lets look at another. Hebrews 13:17Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you. 1. The Word of God is telling us to obey men. Which men? Obviously, our priests since they are our rulers in the Church. 2. We must submit to these men freely and obediently. 3. They watch over our souls. 4. And they make an account to God for our souls. Do you have anyone in your religion whom you recognize with such authority before God? If not, then you're not in Christ's Church. JB-Not for those who overcome all sin because those people do not exist. No wonder Catholics don't know if they are going to Heaven or not. I feel sorry for them. DM-I know I've already proved this objection wrong. So, that means you're not reading what I'm saying. First of all, Scripture tells us not judge ourselves saved and to leave judgment to God: 1 Corinthians 4:2-4 King James Version 2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful. 3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. 4 For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. Secondly, it is God who judges whether a man has overcome all sin. Not you. Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. JB- Read the Bible verses that assure all those who put their faith in Jesus Christ will be saved...now and forever. Amen. DM-Lol! I read all of Scripture and put all the verses into context. You pick some and discard others. Yes, God assures us salvation, IF we keep the commandments. Not if we don't. Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? Sin unto death. Obedience unto righteousness. Faith alone is dead.