Friday, September 30, 2011

JUST FOR my fellow CATHOLICS - The Canon


Just for Catholics is a website where Dr. Mizzi seeks to convince Catholics to leave the Catholic Church.  I am reviewing his teachings and comparing them to the Word of God in Tradition, Scripture and Magisterium.  We are currently on this article.  His words in blue.


The Canon: Which Books are Inspired?
Question: You believe that the Bible is the sole authority for doctrine. However the Bible itself does not list which books are inspired and which are not. For the first four centuries many books were debated as whether or not they were inspired or not. How then can you know if a book is not missing? Or one is included that shouldn't be? The Bible would not exist without the Catholic Church's authority to say it is inspired. It seems you have no way of knowing it is inspired if you deny the authority of the Catholic Church who decided which was inspired and which was not. The Bible is a Church book.
Another person wrote: The Catholic Church gave us the Bible. You should therefore follow the interpretation of the Bible given by the Catholic Church.


This is a very good question which Dr. Mizzi never really addresses.  Let me give you a picture of the situation at the time of the Reformation.

At the time of Luther, the Church had maintained a 73 book Bible.  27 books of the New Testament.  46 of the Old Testament.

At that time, Luther, because he had discarded the authority of the Catholic Church, decided to follow the Jewish leadership as they had discarded the books which were not written in Hebrew.  These are what Protestants call the Apocrypha and we call the Deuterocanonicals.  They are seven books of the Old Testament and the Protestants took them out of their Bible.

Answer: The canon is the set of inspired books that make up the Holy Scriptures, the written Word of God. 

Correct.  The Canon was determined by the Catholic Church.

They are called ‘canonical’ because they are the rule, the standard of faith. ‘Canon’ is derived from a Greek word, kanon, meaning a measuring-rod. No matter how valuable and useful, other human writings are not canonical because they are not inspired. Human writings are fallible (can be mistaken) and could not be called the Word of God.

That's close enough.  The Canon does mean the standard.  But the standard or canon is the 73 book Bible.  Not the 66 book Bible of the Protestants.

The canon is not ‘determined’ by the church or church leaders. The church did not give us the Bible. 

Yes.  The Church did give us the Bible.

Rather, God gave the Bible to His people, the church, and not the other way around. 

God gave His people the Bible through His Church.  Just as God teaches His people through His Church and God baptizes His people through His Church.  The Church is God's chosen instrument for evangelizing the world.

Every book written by the inspiration of God is, by definition, canonical. 

We know that now.  But no one knew that before the Catholic Church sifted through the hundreds of New Testament books which many considered inspired Scripture in the second century.  The Shepherd of Hermas, the Gospel of Peter, the epistle of Barnabus, etc. etc.  It is the Catholic Church which sifted through those books and said they were apocryphal.

It is canonical because it is the Word of God, not because of any human decision to regard it as such. 

But it took the Catholic Church to sift through all the books and discard those which were not the Word of God while keeping those which are.

Therefore the canon of the Scripture was completed when the last book of the New Testament was written, even though all Christians did not yet possess all the canonical books collected in one book.

But the point is, that no one knew which books those were.  So, although all the books of Scripture were completed, they were mixed in with other books which also existed during that time.  And regular people couldn't tell the difference.  Even some of the clergy couldn't tell the difference.

The New Testament books were given to the churches as sacred Scripture. During the apostolic age, Christians were aware that new books were being added to the Scriptures, which were of equal authority to the Old Testament scriptures. These books and epistles were copied, circulated among the churches, and passed on to succeeding generations. There was a general consensus among Christians on most books of the New Testament, though there were some doubts about a few. By the fourth century, there was a general agreement on all books of the New Testament, both in the eastern and the western church.

Lol!  Dr. Mizzi has just shot himself in the foot on this issue.  Why would the Church have had to go four centuries, building "consensus and general agreement", if the Scriptures were readily evident.

Obviously, he wants to jump right over the Church and ignore the steps the Church took to ascertain the true Scriptures.  

The Eastern Orthodox Church was the first to formally identify the 27 books of the New Testament in A.D. 367. 

Lol! The Eastern Orthodox Church did not exist for another four centuries:

Until 1054 AD Eastern Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism were branches of the same body—the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church....

At that time, the Eastern and Western branches of the Church were still one Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.

McVey wide skyscraper.jpgThe canonical books were listed in Athanasius' Easter letter from Alexandria. Later on the Western church accepted the same books at the councils of Hippo (A.D. 393) and Carthage (A.D. 397). Having received from the Jews the books of the Old Testament and from our Christian forefathers the books of the New, today we possess the complete Bible.

Exactly!  Why did he go through the exercise of denying that the Church determined the Scripture and now he is explaining how the Church determined the Scripture.

Catholic apologists often argue about the canon, either to discredit Sola Scriptura (the Bible is the sole, infallible rule of faith), or to elevate the authority of the magisterium and tradition. They employ three basic arguments, all of which are fallacious.

How can he say that when he just proved them true?  It is the Magisterium of the Church which met at the councils he produced above and they began the Tradition of the New Testament Scripture at that time.  That Biblical Tradition has continued since then.

1. The canon cannot be ascertained from Scripture alone
No, we cannot, but we don’t have to either. The Bible is not a doctrine to be determined from the Bible itself. Rather, Scripture was given by God to His people as the infallible rule of faith, and as such it has been recognized and handled to succeeding generations. 

Yep.  It was recognized by the Church and handed on by the Church.

There is no inspired table of contents in the Bible, but there is something even better. Our confidence that we possess all the correct books of the Bible rests in the goodness and omnipotence of our God who both gave and preserved His Word for His children. 

I wonder if that is why Luther called the Epistle of St. James an epistle of straw?

In His wise providence, God has so directed His people (fallible and imperfect as they are) to recognize for certain His Holy Word. The Good Shepherd had promised that His sheep would hear His voice, and that they will not be mislead by the voice of a stranger - and that is exactly what happened, and what continues to happen to this day. “My sheep hear my voice!”

It is a very pretty fairy tale, but he has already admitted that it took centuries for the Church to study the situation and gain agreement as to which books are inspired canon.

2 The canon cannot be known apart from church tradition.
In a sense, this is true. Our forefathers cherished and preserved the sacred writings, and the Lord directed the church to a general consensus on all the books. We have received from their hands the 27 books of the New Testament. We may call this ‘tradition’ - a heritage that is passed on from one generation to the next.

No argument from me.

This ‘tradition’ has nothing to do with the concept of ‘Sacred Tradition' of the Roman Catholic Church. 

Yes, it does.  Just as the Church determined which were the inspired books, the Church determines which is authentic Tradition.

The ‘table of contents’ was not passed orally from one bishop to the other, until somebody decided to publish it! Rather, the books that were already regarded as Scripture by the churches were included in the list of canonical books- and passed on to us.

That's not true.  Dr. Mizzi admitted as much above.

3.The canon cannot be known with certainty apart from the infallible magisterium.
We are told that unless we rely on the decision of the infallible Church magisterium, we have no sure basis for knowing the extent of the canon. How can we be sure that the early Christians did not exclude an inspired book, or included a book that is not inspired?

Good question.

It would be nice to have an infallible magisterium to declare infallibly the list of canonical books. Unfortunately, there are two big problems with this fantasy. First, historically it did not happen that way. 

It is precisely how it happened historically as he himself proved when he mentioned the councils above.

Secondly, how can we know that the magisterium is infallible to start with?

Have faith in the Word of God which tells you that the Church is the Pillar of Truth (1 Tim 3:15).

From the Roman Catholic standpoint, it was not until the sixteenth century at the Council of Trent, that a general council declared ‘infallibly’ the books of the Bible. 

That's not true.  The Church at that time closed the canon.  But it was already infallible before the Church did so.  Again, Dr. Mizzi said so himself.  God chose the canon before the Church determined it from amongst the many counterfeits.

(The councils of Hippo and Carthage were local synods, and could not be considered infallible, since the list of Old Testament books was different from that given by Trent. Indeed, if Trent is correct, then Hippo and Carthage were not merely fallible, but actually mistaken). 

The list of books looks the same to me.  I don't know which list he is talking about.

Yet for fifteen hundred years and more, Christians had built their life and hope on the teaching of those books, being fully confident that they are the Word of God, even though there was no declaration by an infallible magisterium. Today, Evangelicals continue to walk in the steps of their forefathers, having full assurance of the authenticity of the books of the Bible, apart from any ‘infallible’ declaration by a group of bishops.

Even today, some evangelicals deny the inspiration of certain texts, like Mark 16:16.  The Catholic Church does not.

Similarly, the Jewish people recognized a corpus of books that they called 'sacred Scriptures' (which we now call the Old Testament). The Lord Jesus and His apostles reasoned with the Jews from the Scriptures, implying of course that there was a canon that was generally recognized by God's people. Yet, it is clear that the same Jews that recognized the canonical books were not themselves 'infallible.' Jesus does not attribute infallibility to the leaders whose forefathers had first acknowledged the books of the sacred Scriptures. As a matter of fact, they were mistaken on many issues of doctrine and morals, to the extent that they crucified the Messiah prophesied in the same Writings.

That is true.  God sent Moses to establish the Jewish Religion.  God sent His Son to establish the Christian religion.  Therefore many doctrines of the Jews were mistaken.  But not the Doctrines of Jesus Christ.

We can be confident that God has providentially worked in history so that we now possess in our hands the inspired writings. Moreover, we would be wise to follow Jesus and His apostles not to attribute infallibility to the church He used to that end.

We agree.  We can be so confident because God, working through His infallible instrument, the Catholic Church, has provided us not only inspired Scripture but an infallible interpreter.

Secondly, the need for an infallible magisterium creates an additional logical problem. If we cannot know for certain the canon of Scripture apart from an infallible authority, how can we know for certain that the Roman claim to infallibility is certainly true? To say that the magisterium teaches that the magisterium is infallible is begging the question. 

Scripture says it also and Tradition also.

Nor is it possible to argue from the Bible that the magisterium is infallible, for that presupposes that the canon of the Bible is known for certain (apart from the infallible declaration by the magisterium).

Circular arguments are not always false.  Remember the old song.  Jesus loves me, the Bible told me so.  Well, the Church is infallible, the Bible tells me so.

Conclusion
We thank God for giving us His Word in written form. Rather than waste our time arguing on the canon of the New Testament, about which Catholics and Protestants agree, we should move on to study these sacred books to learn God's will and to correct false doctrines that have crept into the churches.

Many false doctrines have crept into Protestant Churches.  Not into the doctrines of the True Church of Christ, the Catholic Church.

Sincerely,

De Maria

2 comments:

  1. I recently started reading your blog from the beginning (I imagine you can tell). Your use of Scripture and patristics is definitely very good, but I think a much better answer could be given to Dr. Mizzi's alleged logical problem with the Magisterium. The first thing to do is point out that he's just trailing a red herring. Certainly, one cannot prove in any non-circular manner that the Magisterium is infallible, but that's not the problem in the first place. I've only ever seen anyone use the argument as an internal critique of Protestant ideas. In effect, if you accept that the Bible canon contains all and only those God-breathed books, and that this is an infallible truth, you must accept the authority of the body that told us what books belong in it. Arguments that "work backwards" shouldn't be critiqued as if they were "working forwards."
    Worse, knowing that the Magisterium is infallible really isn't a problem in itself. We can attain a reasonable degree of certainty for that belief on independent grounds, which should suffice for any reasonable person. But we can't say the same for his implied belief that the Bible canon was not assembled by any infallible body, especially if we take his Protestantism into account. After all, the Church was supposedly in error about a number of extremely important theological claims for centuries! If God didn't preserve the Church from teaching error during that whole time, how could anyone in his right mind think the Church was so protected when it was judging all of those books in the Bible? He can't really ignore that problem - the Bible cannot help us if we misunderstand it, and so there's no reason to preserve the Bible, or even the historical Church, if the teachers are going to fail so spectacularly.

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    1. All that is true and I agree. Now if we could just get Mizzi and others like him to agree.

      Thanks for the input!

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