Tuesday, July 28, 2015

Soooo? You don't know if you're saved?

DS:  I get tired of this blatant lie. You deny Scripture and you call God a liar. We do NOT judge ourselves saved.
Soooo? You don't know if you're saved?

You're arguing a straw man.
So, you don't consider yourself saved?

We believe and do what God says to do to be saved in His word.
You do something to be saved? So, why do you complain that we do too?

And then His own word tells us that we can know we have eternal life yet you keep insisting that we cannot know.
Let's look at that verse in more context:
1 John 5
King James Version (KJV)
1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

So, the faithful are those who keep the Commandments.

5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

And they who have proven their faith AND LOVE of Christ by keeping the Commandments, overcome the world.

6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. 9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 

Sooo, IF, you believe in God and keep His Commandments, then you know you have eternal life. That's the context before this verse. 
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Do you keep His Commandments?

Now just who are we to believe, you or God?
God:1 Corinthians 4:5
King James Version (KJV)
5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

Stop with this nonsense. I am saved, not because I declare it, but because it's so due to my coming to Christ and believing on Him and the Spirit's witness to mine.
Then you have judged yourself. You may have your reward. I will await God's judgement upon me.

Now keep calling God a liar if you want to but the Bible doesn't agree iwith you.
The Bible doesn't agree with you picking a verse out of context.

1 John 5:13

King James Version (KJV)

13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

De Maria


  1. Circle. Meet Logic. Why don't you two get together and figure out your salvation?

    They just don't see it. All the versus in Scripture that blatantly warn that one must struggle with salvation and continue to "fight the good fight".

    1. Lol! Circular logic, they name is Protestant.

    2. What I find interesting is that DS tells you that he follows the Scripture. He and ole Ed must be reading from the same bible:the one that is missing seven other books and 90% of the New Testament.


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