Our prayers of adoration are only offered to God.
Our prayers (petitions) for intercession are offered to the Saints in heaven and to our fellow Christians here on earth.
That was the question.
The bible only says God.
Bible doesn't say Mary or saints.
Live people are obviously not in heaven.
Nothing in that scripture speaks of prayer.
2 Corinthians 3:6
King James Version (KJV)
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
The captain of the host of the Lord IS the Lord.
Who was this "captain of the host of the LORD"? A "host" in the Bible is an unseen army, invisible to the human eye that surrounds the throne of God. It is an angelic host. Cf. 2 Kings 6:17ff; Psalm 148:2; 103:21. Christ said twelve legions of angels were ready to defend Him.
Revelation 12:7
King James Version (KJV)
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
This is typical though. Why do you deny the plain word of Scripture? Michael is the Captain of the angels. Nowhere has anyone ever said that Joshua saw God. Yet you are now claiming that Joshua saw God in order to justify your errors.
Joshua immediately recognized the supernatural character of this visitor. Joshua was in the presence of God."And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and bowed down, and said to him, 'What has my lord to say to his servant?'" (v. 14b). Joshua fell on his face and worshiped. The worship paid to this messenger of the LORD is directed to Yahweh Himself. Who is this person? It is sin to worship angels and men (Exodus 20; Deuteronomy 5-8; Revelation 19:10; 22:8, 9). The total impact of the context of the passage indicates that a superhuman person is present. He is in the presence of Deity. The commander of the army of the LORD is God Himself. Yahweh has come to lead and fight for His people. All distinctions between the messenger of the covenant and the LORD Himself evaporate in the context.
Verse fifteen removes any doubt as to who this "captain of the army of Yahweh" was. "The captain of the Lord’s host said to Joshua, 'Remove your sandals from your feet, for the place where you are standing is holy.' And Joshua did so." In the Bible only things, places and people can be called holy because they are set aside for God or claimed by Him.
I want you to note the difference between what you and I are doing here. I am interpreting the Scripture according to the Scripture.
Joshua 5:14 identifies a commander of the Lord's army.
Rev 12:7 reveals that the commander of the Lord's angels is Michael.
But you pit the explanation of men against the revealed Truth of Scripture. So be it. Let everyone take note.
There was no prayer going on there
Take that up with God. He did not define prayer. He said PRAYER. If God wanted to define different methods of prayer, I am quite sure He would have been able to do it, don't you think?
I am quite sure God has a dictionary. However He said PRAYER...
This is how you PRAY....that is what Jesus said.
Mary and Saints are not mentioned ANYWHERE in the bible as people in heaven to direct prayers to.
Sincerely,
De Maria
This is the main problem with many protest-ants; they equate 'prayer" with "worship". They are completely different. The Scriptures make this point clear. Yes, prayer is part of a liturgical service, but it is not the only element involved in worshiping God.
ReplyDeleteGod Bless and keep up the great work!
Its as though they are tied to the Old Testament. They can't understand and move into the New Dispensation of Jesus Christ.
ReplyDeletePROTESTANTS! Listen up:
Hebrews 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, 19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more: 20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart: 21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)
We are not on that mountain anymore. We are on this one:
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
We now live amongst the Saints and the Angels. They are our family in the household of God.