Friday, May 22, 2015

God saves those who keep the law


JW:
"No one is righteous, not even one."
That verse is talking about unbelievers:
Psalm 14:1
King James Version (KJV)
14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

There is a "civil" or "outward" righteousness, but such is not moral perfection. Scripture does NOT say that these people perfectly kept all the law from the moment of conception to the moment of death.

But that doesn't seem to be important to the Holy Spirit as it is to you:
Proverbs 24:16
King James Version (KJV)
16 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.

If "keeping the law" saves you

That's a straw man. I keep repeating

GOD SAVES THOSE WHO KEEP THE LAW. What is so hard to understand about the words "God saves"?

The problem seems to be that you want to save yourself by faith alone and you project your feeling towards us. But we don't pretend to save ourselves nor do we pretend that works save us. We await the salvation of our Lord.

(from what?)

You tell me. You're the one attributing that false sentiment to us. Whereas, I have repeatedly told you. God saves those who by faith in Him, keep the Commandments.

Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

and ergo you need no Savior, no mercy, no forgiveness, no Sacraments, no church (cuz you're perfect)

Again, you project your ideas unto me. I accept our Saviour and all His promises unto me through His Mercy, forgiveness, Sacraments and Church. Whereas you claim to accept Him and reject all that He has promised.

- then all I can say is, heaven is empty. Well, except for you, I guess. You and Jesus.

Your guess would be wrong. Scripture is clear that we are preceded by those whom God has approved before us and that those who accept His Church and His Sacraments walk amongst those whose spirits have been made perfect on Mount Sion:
Hebrews 12:22-24
King James Version (KJV)
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Your WHOLE dismissal of Christ, of mercy, of forgiveness - your whole embrace of "I'm going to heaven cuz of ME" thing is one of the things many left Catholicism over, this "Look at ME!" along with "Christ is irrelevant."

You are mistaken. That is the Protestant ethic. Not Catholic. It is Protestants who claim salvation for themselves and eschew the Judgement of all mighty God. It is they who claim that the entire world is condemned except they. And in so doing they exalt themselves and commit the sin of presumption. Presuming that you are equal to or greater than God who is our Judge. In essence, it is self idolatry.

Sincerely,

De Maria

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