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2 Peter 1:21
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21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
2 Thessalonians 2:15
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Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
or Scripture plus the Book of Mormon etc..
Galatians 1:8
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8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Hebrews 13:7
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7Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.
1 Corinthians 11
1Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
Not faith plus works. Grace unmerited favor alone. Not grace plus merited favor.
James 2:24
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24Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Romans 2:13
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13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
1 Corinthians 10:16
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16The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
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25Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Hebrews 9:14
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14How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
1 John 1:7
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7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
And now, lets go back a few verses:
23Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised
24And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
25Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Obviously, he is talking to Christians. People who have made a profession of faith. Just as you, (I presume) and certainly I have.
Now, lets go back a few lines from v. 39:
34For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.
These people had done good deeds on behalf of St. Paul
35Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.What? He warns them not to cast away their confidence?
36For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
He warns them they need patience to wait on receiving the promise that they MIGHT receive. Not that they are guaranteed of receiving.
37For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
38Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
39But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
Note that the just live by faith, but not faith alone as he has already enumerated two other virtues, confidence and patience. And he made sure to explain that they MIGHT receive the promise, IF THEY PERSEVERE.
http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthrea...Sola-Scriptura
Let me know which Church Father's teachings you would like to begin to examine.
"Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day" (John 6:53-54). If you read the entire passage in context, the meaning becomes clear. Right before making that statement, Jesus said: "... For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread. And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst." John 6:33-35 This teaching is consistent with the rest of Scripture. Eternal life comes through believing in Jesus Christ for salvation, not eating His literal body. The Lord goes on to further clarify: "And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life..." John 6:40 Again, Jesus points out that eternal life comes through believing in Him. When the Lord's disciples murmured at His words, Jesus explained: "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." John 6:63
First, let us start with Transubstantiation which you sort of touched upon but dropped. Transubstantiation is the changing of one substance to another. The changing of bread to the substance of the Flesh of Our Lord. What does Jesus say:
John 6:51
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51I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
Very simple and straight forward, nothing confusing there. The BREAD that I will give is my FLESH.
TRANSUBSTANTIATION.
Now, let's focus on what Jesus said about the spirit and life.
"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
First He says, THE flesh profits nothing. Of course, knowing Scripture, we know that THE flesh is one of the enemies of God:
Romans 8:7-8
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7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
But what are His Words that are Spirit and Life? He repeated them often enough for anyone to see:
53Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
Now, perhaps you see, THE flesh profits nothing. But Christ's flesh and blood, profits to eternal life.
1 Corinthians 2:14
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14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
The Apostle also teaches the same thing:
1 Corinthians 11:27
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27Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
and the Church Fathers believed the same thing:
The Early Fathers recognized the clear meaning of Scripture regarding the “Real Presence” of Christ in the Eucharist. While some found it hard to accept (John 6:60-66) Jesus was adamant in proclaiming that his flesh and blood were real food and drink. He did not call out to those who abandoned him over this to explain that he was only speaking symbolically. And that is because he wasn’t. The early Christians were even persecuted for their belief as they were accused of being cannibals. While the Eucharist is the actual body and blood of Christ it retains the appearance of bread and wine.
Ignatius of Antioch
Take note of those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ which has come to us, and see how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God. . . . They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in his goodness, raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes (Letter to the Smyrnaeans 6:2-7:1 [A.D. 110]).
. . . and are now ready to obey your bishop and clergy with undivided minds and to share in the one common breaking of bread – the medicine of immortality, and the sovereign remedy by which we escape death and live in Jesus Christ for evermore (Letter to the Ephesians 20 [A.D. 110]).
Justin Martyr
We call this food Eucharist, and no one else is permitted to partake of it, except one who believes our teaching to be true and who has been washed in the washing which is for the remission of sins and for regeneration [i.e., has received baptism] and is thereby living as Christ enjoined. For not as common bread nor common drink do we receive these, but since Jesus Christ our Savior was made incarnate by the word of God and had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so too, as we have been taught, the food which has been made into the Eucharist by the Eucharistic prayer set down by him, and by the change of which our blood and flesh is nurtured, is both the flesh and the blood of that incarnated Jesus (First Apology 66 [A.D. 151]).
Irenaeus
He has declared the cup, a part of creation, to be his own blood) from which he causes our blood to flow; and the bread, a part of creation, he has established as his own body, from which he gives increase unto our bodies. When, therefore, the mixed cup [wine and water] and the baked bread receive the Word of God and become the Eucharist, the body of Christ, and from these the substance of our flesh is increased and supported) how can they say that the flesh is not capable of receiving the gift of God, which is eternal life — flesh which is nourished by the body and blood of the Lord and is in fact a member of him? (Against Heresies 5:2 [A.D. 189]).
http://www.staycatholic.com/ecf_the_real_presence.htm
“He who eats this bread will live forever” (v58).
“He who believes” in Christ is equivalent to “he who eats this bread” because the result is the same, eternal life.
“Everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day” (v40).
“Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day” (v54).
Sincerely,
De Maria
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