Pray!

De Maria

September 8, 2012 at 6:07 pm

Hi Curious Presbyterian (CP), you said:
“Then we should only read the parts of Bible about what Jesus actually said,

Why?  Don’t you believe the Holy Spirit inspired the Scriptures?

since He is alive.

???  I’m trying to follow the logic.  Are you implying you thought He was dead?

What does Jesus being alive have to do with throwing out the parts of the Bible where Ezekiel, the Apostles, St. Paul or someone else spoke?

Forget about Isaiah, Ezekiel, the apostles, Paul and everyone else because they’re all dead.”

Have you not read in Scripture:
Matthew 22:32
King James Version (KJV)
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

No, that doesn’t follow at all. My point is that we can know about Paul, etc., and we can read what they teach. But we can’t know them personally.

Scripture tells me that St. Paul, etc, were faithful believers in Christ.  That is all I need to know to ask someone to pray for me.

 Please don’t go off on illogical tangents that have nothing to do with what I’ve actually said.

To what part of my response do you object.  Isn’t it true that Jesus loves Mary?  Is Jesus our example? Are we Jesus’ beloved disciples?  Do you keep the Commandments and the testimony of Christ?

“The only “myths and legends” about Mary are those made-up by people who don’t know her. She always leads us to her Son.”

Give me an example where Mary did not lead people to Christ.  Here’s my example to you:
John 2:5
King James Version (KJV)
5 His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.

Sorry, this is nonsense. Read up on the many medieval myths and legends that grew up around Mary (and other biblical characters).

I stick to the truth.  Here’s what I see.
Scripture says that God’s will should be done on earth as it is in heaven.
And God wills that the Angels praise Mary:

Luke 1:26-28
King James Version (KJV)
26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
Let’s break this down:
ANGEL GABRIEL
1. an angel is a messenger of God. That is what the word, angel, means.
2. this angel, Gabriel, is one of the four angels that stands before the throne of God.
WAS SENT FROM GOD
1. God sent this angel to Mary.
2. Since this angel is a messenger of God’s, God sent Him to deliver a message.
3. Therefore, the angel was not speaking on his own, but was communicating God’s message to Mary.
4. If we skip down to verse 28, we see that this was a message of praise (i.e. blessed art thou).
5. Therefore God praised Mary through His Angel.
That is great praise indeed. Do you know of any man whose praise is worth more than God’s?

I said:

“Therefore when Jesus Christ became man, He was in the unique position of knowing who would be His mother”

You responded:

Not at all, according to orthodox doctrines of kenosis and the hypostatic union of Christ’s two natures.

Really?  Are those in Scripture?  Please show me.

There were plenty of things that Jesus didn’t know, as the Bible attests (e.g. Mark 13:32).

Mark 13:32
King James Version (KJV)
32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

That only says one thing that Jesus didn’t know.  Where does it say that Jesus did not choose His mother?

The rest of your points affirm a respect for Mary, which I certainly concur with, same as I respect other biblical figures who played particular, special roles.

That’s good, I suppose.  But Jesus loves Mary, because she is His mother.  Therefore, I love Mary in imitation of my Lord.  Do you?

Sincerely,

De Maria