He wants to invoke Catholic Doctrine to have me stop responding to his false claims. But I wasn't born yesterday.
<b>PeaceByJesus said...
Thanks. Hope that was not too much. </b>
Not at all.
It is you and Protestants who continually abuse Scripture. Even the lowliest devout Catholic layman understands the Word of God better than the loftiest Protestant scholar. The reason being that we understand the Traditions which underly the Scripture and therefore, understand what the Scripture truly means.
Let me give you an example. Protestants continually judge themselves saved by faith alone. And they get flustered when they ask a Catholic, "Are you saved?" And he says, "I don't know. Christ is my judge."
But which is the Scriptural answer?
1 Corinthians 4:2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful. 3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. 4 For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.
The Protestant is exalting himself. The Catholic, humbling himself.
Luke 14:11
For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
That is no longer in force. The Popes have been marshalling us to join the fray:
DECREE ON THE APOSTOLATE OF THE LAITY
APOSTOLICAM ACTUOSITATEM
SOLEMNLY PROMULGATED BY HIS HOLINESS,
POPE PAUL VI
ON NOVEMBER 18, 1965
INTRODUCTION
1. To intensify the apostolic activity of the people of God,(1) the most holy synod earnestly addresses itself to the laity, whose proper and indispensable role in the mission of the Church has already been dealt with in other documents.(2) The apostolate of the laity derives from their Christian vocation and the Church can never be without it. Sacred Scripture clearly shows how spontaneous and fruitful such activity was at the very beginning of the Church (cf. Acts 11:19-21; 18:26; Rom. 16:1-16; Phil. 4:3).
Our own times require of the laity no less zeal: in fact, modern conditions demand that their apostolate be broadened and intensified. With a constantly increasing population, continual progress in science and technology, and closer interpersonal relationships, the areas for the lay apostolate have been immensely widened particularly in fields that have been for the most part open to the laity alone.....
However, it is forbidden for Protestants to interpret Catholic documents because they have no idea what they are looking at or how to understand them.
<b>PeaceByJesus said...
Thanks. Hope that was not too much. </b>
Not at all.
In the light of DM's manifest excessive abuse of Scripture, I actually can see some warrant in Rome's restriction of access to the Bible by laymen, and forbidding them to debate.
It is you and Protestants who continually abuse Scripture. Even the lowliest devout Catholic layman understands the Word of God better than the loftiest Protestant scholar. The reason being that we understand the Traditions which underly the Scripture and therefore, understand what the Scripture truly means.
Let me give you an example. Protestants continually judge themselves saved by faith alone. And they get flustered when they ask a Catholic, "Are you saved?" And he says, "I don't know. Christ is my judge."
But which is the Scriptural answer?
1 Corinthians 4:2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful. 3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. 4 For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.
The Protestant is exalting himself. The Catholic, humbling himself.
Luke 14:11
For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
We furthermore forbid any lay person to engage in dispute, either private or public, concerning the Catholic Faith. Whosoever shall act contrary to this decree, let him be bound in the fetters of excommunication. — Pope Alexander IV (1254-1261) in “Sextus Decretalium”, Lib. V, c. ii)
That is no longer in force. The Popes have been marshalling us to join the fray:
DECREE ON THE APOSTOLATE OF THE LAITY
APOSTOLICAM ACTUOSITATEM
SOLEMNLY PROMULGATED BY HIS HOLINESS,
POPE PAUL VI
ON NOVEMBER 18, 1965
INTRODUCTION
1. To intensify the apostolic activity of the people of God,(1) the most holy synod earnestly addresses itself to the laity, whose proper and indispensable role in the mission of the Church has already been dealt with in other documents.(2) The apostolate of the laity derives from their Christian vocation and the Church can never be without it. Sacred Scripture clearly shows how spontaneous and fruitful such activity was at the very beginning of the Church (cf. Acts 11:19-21; 18:26; Rom. 16:1-16; Phil. 4:3).
Our own times require of the laity no less zeal: in fact, modern conditions demand that their apostolate be broadened and intensified. With a constantly increasing population, continual progress in science and technology, and closer interpersonal relationships, the areas for the lay apostolate have been immensely widened particularly in fields that have been for the most part open to the laity alone.....
...when there is a question of dogmatic or moral theology, every intelligent layman will concede the propriety of leaving the exposition and defense of it to the clergy..... Clerics and members of religious institutes may write in them only with the permission of the local Ordinary. - http://www.intratext.com/IXT/ENG0017/_P2P.HTM
However, it is forbidden for Protestants to interpret Catholic documents because they have no idea what they are looking at or how to understand them.
LOL!! Classic!
ReplyDeleteGreat job De Maria! Keep defending the One, True, Holy, and Apostolic Catholic Church
God Bless
Mark Thimesch
Thanks Mark. I'll do my best,
DeleteGod bless you as well.
De Maria