Monday, April 27, 2015

I said, to be saved BY GOD, you must keep the law

FH:Of course you did.....

No, I didn't. 

you said to be saved, you must keep the law.

I said, to be saved BY GOD, you must keep the law. And I proved it from Scripture:

Romans 2:13

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13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Revelation 22:14

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14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Matthew 19:17

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17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Scripture is very clear, those who do not keep the Commandments will not be saved by God:
1 John 2:4

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He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Now its your turn. Since you don't believe that only those who keep the Commandments are saved by God, show me where Scripture says that those who do not keep the Commandments are saved by God.

Scripture teaches otherwise....that is not the Gospel.

Show me.

But you sure contradict Scripture.

We'll see. Let's get into the details. Show me where one can reject the Commandments and be saved.

Nope.....justificiation is by grace through faith....

By a working faith, not by faith alone:
James 2:24

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24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

if you understood the context you would not quote this verse in support of works based salvation, as Paul goes on to say in Romans 3 that the law justified no one in His sight.

But only those who keep the Law are justified by God.

If you understood Scripture you would see that this is the same lesson taught by Jesus in the Parable of the Pharisee who exalted himself.

Then no one will be saved, because no one save Christ can keep them.

That is what you say. Because you don't understand the Word of God. Scripture says that some have kept the Commandments and nowhere says that no one can keep the Commandments.

Luke 1:6

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And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

If it is true what you say, then show me where Scripture contradicts itself.

Those who are saved, are saved by grace through faith, not by keeping the commandments.

Those who are saved by grace through faith, have kept the Commandments. If they didn't keep the Commandments, they did not cooperate with the grace of faith given them by God.

Go in peace. YOUR FAITH has saved you....luke 7:50

Really? Apparently you ignored all the rest of that chapter.

First, I'd like to note that you seem to be saying that faith saves. So where is God in that equation? If your faith saves you, then you don't need God.

Now, let's look at the rest of that account:

36 And one of the Pharisees desired him that he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee's house, and sat down to meat.
37 And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,
38 And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment.
39 Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.
40 And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on.
41 There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty.
42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most?
43 Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.
44 And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head.
45 Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.
46 My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.
47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.
48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.
49 And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also?
50 And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.

1. The woman washed Jesus feet.
2. Mourned His coming death.
3. Kissed Him.
4. Anointed Him with costly oil.
5. Which means that she made a great monetary sacrifice (John 12:4-6).

In all this the woman clearly expressed not just her faith in works of love for Jesus. And what does Scripture say about that?
1 Corinthians 13:2

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And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

The rest of your post isn't worth addressing since you have already shown how you twist Scripture to your own destruction.
Your post wasn't worth addressing. But I addressed it anyway on the hope that someone out there may be enlightened by these corrections to your errors.


De Maria

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