Thursday, November 22, 2012

Contradictions again!!


Hi Lutero,
Contradictions again!!
No, Joel. You don’t understand the Scriptures because you have discarded the Traditions (2 Thess 2:15) upon which the Scriptures are based. Remember, Jesus didn’t write even a word of Scripture. He established a Church (Matt 16:18) and commissioned that Church to pass on His Commands (Matt 28:19-20).
You seem to be losing track of what you post,
I’ll try to explain it more carefully.
 In one the post you said- “were are saved thtough keeping the Commandments and sacraments, now you say believe and be baptised (the later is correct) ..
They are both correct Joel. We keep the Commandments and submit to the Sacraments because we believe. Can you not understand that concept?
We believe, therefore we obey. Read Hebrews 11. Here’s one portion of it (Heb 11:1-8).
It is because of our faith that we keep the Commandments and submit to the Sacraments. It is lack of faith to claim to have faith alone and deny the Commandments and the Sacraments.
Can’t you make up your mind instead of just doing auricular confessions?
I have made up my mind to obey the Word of God which instructs me to do auricular confessions. Have you not read in Scripture?
Hebrews 13:17
King James Version (KJV)
17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
If you kept the Traditions of Christ, you would recognize that as a description of that which we do in the confessional.
You said that we are ambassadors of Christ. You are correct. And the Rulers in our Church are ambassadors in a special way. As they are given the ministry of Reconciliation, also known as the Sacrament of Confession:
2 Corinthians 5:17-20
King James Version (KJV)
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.
Do you not recognize there the Sacrament of Reconciliation?
The Priest, representing Christ and forgiving sins in His name.
The penitent being reconciled to God.
No, you don’t, because you have cast aside the Traditions of Jesus Christ.
And BTW – what does it mean to “Believe and Baptised{ Believe in what?
The question should be, “believe in who?” The answer is, “Christ.”
And so if we Believe and are baptized we are saved
That is what Christ said, yes.
– so the moral of the story is that – “WE DO NOT NEED THE SACRAMENTS OF THE CC -as it is NOT a requirement for salvation as YOU HAVE RIGHTLY ADMITTED IT.
Baptism is a Sacrament. But all the Sacraments are spiritual baptisms. We receive the Holy Spirit in every Sacrament and are washed in the grace of our Lord (Titus 3:5). It is the Work of God. We just approach the Throne in the proper disposition of faith.
Please check yourself you are plagued with doctrinal errors!
I do my best. As I said before, God is my judge (1 Cor 4:4). Without meaning you any disrespect, I welcome any Catholic who might correct me of error as regards Catholic doctrine. I am not infallible.
However, I don’t think you are qualified to correct me of any error as regards the Teachings of Jesus Christ, because you have discarded those Teachings and follow the errors of the Protestants.
Sincerely,
De Maria

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