Showing posts with label Catholicism. Show all posts
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Sunday, April 5, 2015

Those of Hebrew stock, who do not believe, will continue to live in this blindness of the heart. Unless they come to Christ.


De Maria says:
Galit says:
September 15, 2012 at 2:50 pm
If you were trying to figure out which religion is “original” and “authentic”, then why stop at Catholicism?
Because Christ fulfilled Judaism and established Christianity:
Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Judaism was going strong for millenia before Paul came along and preached the divinity of Rabbi Jesus.
It is Jesus who preached His own Divinity:
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
St. Paul only taught what Christ revealed to him:
Galatians 1:12
For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
It has rejected several other Messianic claims
Rightly so.
besides his.
Have you not read in Scripture:
Isaiah 6:10
Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
Romans 11:7
What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
2 Corinthians 3:14
But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Those of Hebrew stock, who do not believe, will continue to live in this blindness of the heart. Unless they come to Christ.
Sincerely,
De Maria

Wednesday, December 31, 2014

Protestants need to convert, 2nd response to PBJ

Which is also a superficial non-answer to the basis for assurance of Truth,
According to you. But I can ask you the same question. What is the basis for your assurance of Truth?
as it ignores the problem of how you know that what Rome calls the word of God is just that.
No it doesn't. You didn't ask that question, therefore I answered what was asked.
The reason I know that what the Catholic Church calls the Word of God is the Word of God is manifold.
1. The witness of the Church Fathers, through the centuries
2. The witness of the Liturgies of the Church, through the centuries.
3. The witness of documents of the Church, through the centuries.
4. The witness of secular history.
Notice that I am not even including the witness of Scripture and Sacred Tradition because they are both the Word of God. However, they both witness, one for the other. And the Magisterium of the Church, witnesses for both.
To be consistent you must mean your basis for Truth is based upon the premise of the assured veracity of Rome, as an assuredly infallible magisterium is essential to know what the word of God is
I never denied that I believe the Catholic Church is infallible. But that is not my only reason that I believe that Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture make up the Word of God passed down by Jesus Christ through the Church. And you didn't ask that question either.
Thus to be consistent 1st. c. souls could not have know what men and writings were of God except by looking to the historical instruments and stewards of Divine revelation, which Scripture tells us were those who sat in the seat of Moses over Israel, who were the historical instruments and stewards of Scripture, and inheritors of promises of Divine guidance, presence and perpetuation. (Lv. 10:11; Dt. 4:31; 17:8-13; Is. 41:10, Ps. 89:33,34)
That was the Old Testament. But Jesus came along, established the Catholic Church, commanded the Catholic Church to Teach His commands through all generations and fulfilled the Old Testament.
The Catholic Church then wrote the New Testament based upon the Teachings of Jesus Christ.
But instead they followed an itinerant Preacher whom the magisterium rejected,
Whom the Jews rejected. Let's be clear on that point. The magisterium of the Jews rejected Jesus Christ. But Jesus Christ established a new Magisterium.
and whom the Messiah reproved them Scripture as being supreme, (Mk. 7:2-16) and established His Truth claims upon scriptural substantiation in word and in power, as did the early church as it began upon this basis. (Mt. 22:23-45; Lk. 24:27,44; Jn. 5:36,39; Acts 2:14-35; 4:33; 5:12; 15:6-21;17:2,11; 18:28; 28:23; Rm. 15:19; 2Cor. 12:12, etc.)
Jesus Christ did not place the Scriptures above His Word:
Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Jesus Christ established His Traditions and commanded the Church to Teach (Matt 28:19-20). He never mentioned putting anything in writing nor handing out Bibles.
Thus under your basis for assurance of Truth, and its presuppositions, De Maria has nuked the NT church and replaced it with a false one.
On the contrary, the Catholic Church is the one which Jesus Christ established and this is proven by Scripture, Tradition, Magisterium, secular history, the writings of the Fathers and more.
True, but what the apostles preached was not established as being of God on the Roman basis of assured veracity, but upon scriptural substantiation in word and in power, "not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. (2 Corinthians 4:2)

But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,..By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left, (2 Corinthians 6:4,7)
That is a false dichotomy since the Catholic Church wrote the New Testament. That verse which you are quoting was written by a Catholic. And here's how I'll prove it. You believe the Catholic Doctrine that men are mediators of God's word to be a blasphemous teaching. You also deny that any man can represent God. But 2 Corinthians was written by a Catholic who has no such objections:
2 Corinthians 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.
Likewise those who sat in the seat of Moses, thus to be consistent, 1st. c. souls should have submitted to themas to Rome under your model. But while we both affirm the magisterial office, never did that mean perpetual magisterial infallibility.
So you say, but I follow the Scripture:
Ephesians 3:10 to the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
If the Church is teaching the wisdom of God in eternity, then that speaks of perpetual magisterial infallibility. Eternal-perpetual, Teaching-magisterial, Wisdom of God-infallible.
And under which presumption her claim not to contradict Scripture is spurious, as that is according to her autocratic judgment.
Again, that is your biased judgement. But the Scripture tells us plainly that the Church upholds the Truth (1 Tim 3:15) and that we learn the Word of God from our rulers in the Church (Heb 13:7).
But this presumes the magisterium is infallible, which is a novelty unknown and unnecessary in Scripture. Instead, while rebellion against magisterial authority could even mean death, (Dt. 17:8-13) God often provided and preserved Truth by raising up men from without the magisterium. And thus the church also began and has been preserved.
Jesus Christ introduced many New things in the New Testament. In the New Testament, the Holy Spirit leads Christ's Church into all truth:
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Therefore, the Catholic Church is infallible.
Rather, what you do represent is not Scriptural Teaching. Until you can admit that wha you affirms is wrong, that an infallible magisterium is NOT essential for valid assurance of Truth and to fulfill promises of Divine presence, providence of Truth, and 
preservation of faith;
It is you who are wrong. Scripture is clear that Jesus Christ established an infallible Church.
And that being the historical instruments and stewards of Divine revelation (oral and written) does NOT means that such is that assuredly infallible magisterium,
Yes, it does.
 and instead concur that the church began by establishing its Truth claims upon scriptural substantiation in word and in power,
Scripture itself records that this is not true. The New Testament shows Jesus establishing a Church and commanding that Church to pass on His Teaching. He didn't write a word of Scripture.
under OT Scripture being supreme,
Jesus Christ did not place the OT above His Word which He passed on in Sacred Tradition.
 then do not bother taking up more time with more propaganda as you do elsewhere.
Lol! You have been raised up for one purpose, that Catholics may show your heresies to the world and more people may come to God's Church. I pray that you may be amongst them.

Friday, December 19, 2014

Protestants can't argue against Islam successfully



Quote Originally Posted by skiknight View PostChill out, save that stuff for when the real insults start flying.
I don't really know what you're talking about. But I am saying precisely what I mean. 

Protestants can't argue against Islam successfully because they don't have absolute truth on their side. They are people of the book. Look up "people of the book" and you will find two groups describes so. Muslims and Protestants. Their logic is based upon the same false premise.

Sincerely,

De Maria

Thursday, December 18, 2014

You are both, Muslims and Protestants, people of the book.



Quote Originally Posted by ray st peter View PostHi dear Catholics,
As we read in the papers, and sometimes from the Vatican itself.... The pope has attempted to communicate to the Muslims that they both have something in common. Namely... a tradition that both have faith in "The God of Abraham."
We've discussed if kissing the Koran was a good idea... that is not what this topic is about.
After reading how the Catholics officially perceive Islam... What is the stance on witnessing to them?
Is it a hands off approach... assuming they will be alright in the end?
Or...
Are you excited about sharing the truth of Jesus Christ?
Thoughts?
I'm thinking that you are reaching out for assistance on how to handle Islamic objections. I can help you if you need it. But the truth is that as a Protestant you are not properly armed to handle their objections. You are both, Muslims and Protestants, people of the book. As such, you are your own authorities and can make up doctrine as you go along.

The Catholic Church is the only Institution that can prove the error of Islam and Protestantism because She is the Pillar of Truth and the preacher of God's wisdom.

Sincerely,

De Maria

Wednesday, December 17, 2014

It is only the Catholic Church which can prove the errors of the Muslims as well as the errors of the Protestants.


 Originally Posted by boldirishlass 
How do you suppose you would go about witnessing to Muslims Og, if you knew any?
That's my cup o' tea. If you ever want to learn how to respond to Muslim objections to Christianity, let me know. 

The fact is however, that Protestants are crippled to that end because both Muslims and Protestants are people of the book. Therefore they can interpret their book anyway they want. Without an authority appointed by God, they simply blow on every wind of doctrine and can prove nothing to each other.

It is only the Catholic Church which can prove the errors of the Muslims as well as the errors of the Protestants.

Sincerely,

De Maria

Friday, March 1, 2013

Don't let my bark scare you


Lutero said:

Don't let my bark scare you - I'm against your religion, not you or other Catholics. 
My beef with Catholicism? Substituting membership in an institution for receiving Jesus Christ in the heart. I'm concerned about unsaved people going to hell trusting their Church membership instead of Jesus Christ. Are you one of them?  
#1 All saved Christians are priests and able to appoint local church leadership and replace apostate leaders. Paul allows every man to have his own opinion on issues like holy days: "Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind." Rom. 14:5 KJV. Let likeminded Christians meet together on the days they want - stop trying to govern somebody else's group. Paul wasn't a fanatic about church management 1 Cor. 14:38 KJV - but with sound doctrines of salvation: Titus 1:9-11 KJV.  
Church authority vs "inner light" is a false dichotomy - both can be wrong. Uniformity of wrong belief is no virtue, neither are church authorities a substitute for the Holy Ghost in each believer. Christians should both hear their teachers and judge for themselves, departing from false ones: 1 Tim. 6:3-5 KJV; 1 Cor. 14:37 KJV; 1 Cor. 3:5 KJV. 
(2) Hebrews 13:17 KJV doesn't say we must look for a religious master. I obey the police, judges, boss who has the rule over me in any situation, and respect a pastor's decisions over the business of his church - but not if command me on any personal issue because that isn't his business. Peter told elders not to be "lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.” 1 Peter 5:3 KJV; Paul said "Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men." 1 Cor. 7:23 KJV. Enslavers are false: "false brethren ...spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:" Gal. 2:4 KJV. Beware of the cult-like control in Roman Catholicism. 
(3) Trinity is an eternal truth simply acknowledged by councils. But a council of devils would also make the correct decision, James 2:19 KJV and "And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ." Luke 4:41 KJV. Councils enforced their decisions by murder which sheds light on the devil's involvement. John 8:44 KJV. 
(4) "Pray to the Virgin, not Jesus, she understands" is something some Catholic women say to each other. Men too can be fanatical: "...they were full of wrath, and cried out, saying, Great is Diana of the Ephesians." Acts 19:28-29 KJV. Zeal for a goddess isn't good. Religious devotion to Mary robs honour from Jesus Christ alone.  
(5) The "Queen of Heaven" is the name of a devil that apostate Jews used to worship, Jeremiah 44:17 KJV. Doubtless the Marian apparitions and miracles are of the devil:  Deut. 13:2-3 KJV; Leviticus 19:31 KJV; Deut. 18:11 KJV; Galatians 1:8-9 KJV; Hebrews 9:27 KJV; Isaiah 8:19 KJV; Luke 16:29 KJV; 1 Chronicles 10:13 KJV.
(6) John wrote that Jesus Christ "full of grace and truth." John 1:14 KJV. But Rome says Mary is "full of grace." Who's right? Romanism has this legacy from the accommodation to get pagans in the church. But its another obstacle that prevent a person from getting saved by going directly to Jesus Christ. Mary isn't a mediator (1 Tim. 2:5). The "fruit" will be seen on the day when countless are cast into hell. Is Marian devotion worth that price?
My response:
Don't let my bark scare you - 
Hm?  What makes you think anyone here is scared?

I'm against your religion, not you or other Catholics. 
Thanks for the olive branch.  I'm also not against you.  I am however against your religion and the errors which your are here trying to spread.
My beef with Catholicism? Substituting membership in an institution for receiving Jesus Christ in the heart.
Hm?  Yours is a false dichotomy.  Those who receive Jesus Christ in the heart will seek membership in His Institution:


Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

I'm concerned about unsaved people going to hell trusting their Church membership instead of Jesus Christ. Are you one of them?  
No.  But you are.  It is your church which pits its membership against Jesus Christ when it attacks the Catholic Church which is the Body of Christ.

Oh and you aren't saved because you claim salvation.  God alone knows whether you are saved or not:
1 Corinthians 4:2-4
King James Version (KJV)
2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful.  3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.  4 For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.

If you have saved yourself, then you have received your reward.  We will await the Judgment of All Mighty God.
#1 All saved Christians are priests and able to appoint local church leadership and replace apostate leaders.
That is not true.  In the Church, we all have our vocations:

Ephesians 4:10-12
King James Version (KJV)
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)  11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;  12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:


Paul allows every man to have his own opinion on issues like holy days: "Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind." Rom. 14:5 KJV.
Not exactly.  St. Peter says the same thing much more succinctly:

Acts 10:34-35
King James Version (KJV)
34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

St. Paul also says it much more succinctly in another place:

1 Corinthians 7:19
Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

Let me walk you through it.  First he says:
1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Don't argue with that are weak in understanding of the faith of Christ.

2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.


 He is using hyperbole or exaggeration here to make a point.   The one who is strong in faith eats all things, because God has made all things clean (Acts 10:13-15).   But he is pointing out that those who are weak in faith do not trust the teaching of the Church and will eat only vegetables in order to "play it safe", so to speak.

Then he says:
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
There is a subtle change here because he is referring to Jew and Christian.  St. Paul is saying that we are not to judge anyone for their religious beliefs.  He is our Judge.

4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
God is not a respecter of persons.  It doesn't matter if you're Protestant, Catholic, Jew or Muslim.  Only one thing matters, do you keep the Commandments?

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Do you keep the Sunday Sabbath or the Saturday Sabbath?  It doesn't matter.  What matters is, do you keep the Commandments?

James 1:27
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
Let likeminded Christians meet together on the days they want - stop trying to govern somebody else's group.
Uh?  What are you doing here then?
Paul wasn't a fanatic about church management 1 Cor. 14:38 KJV -
Lol!  Really?  Let's look at it.  He goes through a whole chapter, 37 verses, explaining what one's attitude should be in the Church and concerning prophecy.  Read them for yourself.  And then he says:


38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

That is not a commendation but a condemnation for a man's unbelief..  If a man chooses to be ignorant and disbelieve the instruction which St. Paul has just explained, then let him be ignorant.  Let him be a fool, if he chooses so to be. How you can turn that into a recommendation to remain a fool, is beyond me.


but with sound doctrines of salvation: Titus 1:9-11 KJV.  
An ignorant person, a  fool, does not accept the wisdom of God.  An ignoramus does not have the wisdom to accept sound doctrine:


Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Church authority vs "inner light" is a false dichotomy - both can be wrong.
Scripture says that the Church is the Pillar of Truth (1 Tim 3:15) and that the Church teaches the Wisdom of God (Eph 3:10).  Therefore, the Church can't be wrong.

I'm not sure what you mean by "inner light".  If you mean that some men who think they are inspired by the light of the Holy Spirit, may not be, I would agree.

2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Uniformity of wrong belief is no virtue,
True.
neither are church authorities a substitute for the Holy Ghost in each believer.
That is a straw man argument, since no one is advocating that one should substitute church authorities for the Holy Ghost.  However, we are advocating submission and obedience to Church authorities in accordance with the command of the Holy Ghost:
Hebrews 13:17
King James Version (KJV)
17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
Christians should both hear their teachers and judge for themselves, departing from false ones: 1 Tim. 6:3-5 KJV; 1 Cor. 14:37 KJV; 1 Cor. 3:5 KJV. 
That is true.  We hear the Church (Matt 18:17) and reject your teachings ( Rom 16:17).
(2) Hebrews 13:17 KJV doesn't say we must look for a religious master.
That verse tells us that we already have religious masters whom we should submit to and obey.  It is an obvious reference to the Sacrament of Reconciliation and to submission to Church authority.
I obey the police, judges, boss who has the rule over me in any situation, and respect a pastor's decisions over the business of his church - but not if command me on any personal issue because that isn't his business.
The condition of your soul is supposed to be his business.  Lets read the Scripture rather than gloss over it as you have done in an attempt to fool us into believing your opinion rather than the actual Word of God:

Hebrews 13:17King James Version (KJV)
Note that this is the King James version of this Scripture.

17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:
He says that we should obey and submit to those who have rule over us.  In other words, we should humble ourselves before these people.  At this point, he could be talking about secular authorities or about church authorities.  He has, after all, admonished us to obey secular authorities in another place, see:

Rom chapter 13.3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:  4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

But that is not the case here.  We know because he says:
for they watch for your souls,
Secular authorities do not watch over our souls.  Catholic Church authorities do so.  Protestants do not and if they attempted to, Protestants like yourself would reject them and accuse them of overstepping their bounds.

 as they that must give account,
This is what makes this a reference to the Sacrament of Confession.  It is in this Sacrament that it is the Priests duty to give an account to God of the sins which we have confessed.
that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

What is this, joy or grief?  Priests are visibly grieved when their constituents are habitually confessing the same sins.  And habitually confessing the same sins is not profitable for us.  It means we are not growing in our faith.  It is not commendable but condemnable.

Peter told elders not to be "lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.” 1 Peter 5:3 KJV;
True.  That is the still the admonition to all priests and lay people alike today.
Paul said "Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men." 1 Cor. 7:23 KJV.
And yet Christ gave us an example of servitude.
Matthew 20:28
King James Version (KJV)
28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

John 13:
13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.  14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.  15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.

Was St. Paul contradicting our Lord, do you think?  Or how do you read 1 Cor 7:23?  Let me give you a hint (Colossians 3:23-24).
Enslavers are false: "false brethren ...spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:" Gal. 2:4 KJV. Beware of the cult-like control in Roman Catholicism. 
There is no such thing.  The Catholic Church teaches the freedom which comes of the Truth:
John 8:32
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

It is, in fact, the lies of Protestantism which bind people to the yoke  of Satan by forbidding the true understanding of the Sacraments of Christ which are the fountains of His saving grace.

(3) Trinity is an eternal truth simply acknowledged by councils. But a council of devils would also make the correct decision, James 2:19 KJV and "And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ." Luke 4:41 KJV. Councils enforced their decisions by murder which sheds light on the devil's involvement. John 8:44 KJV.
 
You make an art of mixing lies and truth.  The Councils of the Catholic Church arrived at the Truth by the guidance of the Holy Spirit.  Any murder which took place was the result of the fallen nature of the man who committed the murder.  Any such murder would have taken place IN SPITE of the Teachings of the Catholic Church and not because of Them.

Does it bother your conscience at all that you indict the innocent with the guilty with such ease?  I remind you that the Scripture says:

Matthew 12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.


(4) "Pray to the Virgin, not Jesus, she understands" is something some Catholic women say to each other.
I was born in the Catholic faith and have been around Catholics all my life.  I've never heard a Catholic say that.  Although I've heard Protestants continually claim this is so.
Men too can be fanatical: "...they were full of wrath, and cried out, saying, Great is Diana of the Ephesians." Acts 19:28-29 KJV. Zeal for a goddess isn't good.
True.  But we don't worship Mary.
Religious devotion to Mary robs honour from Jesus Christ alone.  
That isn't true.  We are devoted to Mary because Jesus Christ loves her.  We love all whom He loves:
Genesis 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:  3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

That was spoken by God to Abraham.  But it is a Biblical principal.  God approves of those who are devoted to those whom He loves.
(5) The "Queen of Heaven" is the name of a devil that apostate Jews used to worship,Jeremiah 44:17 KJV.
True.  Many people share titles and names.  Have you ever heard of Jesus Barsabbas?  Barsabbas means "son of the father".  Who is this man who shares the name of Jesus, Our Lord?

Does the fact that the Jews loved this man more than they loved Jesus somehow detract from the glory of Jesus?  Does the fact he has the same name as our Lord detract from the glory of our Lord?

In the same way, the pagan Queen of Heaven does not detract from the Virgin Mary's true Queenship in Heaven:
Revelation 12:1
King James Version (KJV)
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Doubtless the Marian apparitions and miracles are of the devil:Deut. 13:2-3 KJV; Leviticus 19:31 KJV; Deut. 18:11 KJV; Galatians 1:8-9 KJV; Hebrews 9:27 KJV; Isaiah 8:19 KJV; Luke 16:29 KJV; 1 Chronicles 10:13 KJV.  
How did St. Paul put it?  If you wish to be ignorant, then remain ignorant.  It is your decision.  However, the Queen of Heaven has appeared and it is confirmed by the Catholic Church, in order to reiterate the Teaching of the Gospel.   We do not despise the grace of God.  We test everything, holding on to the good.
(6) John wrote that Jesus Christ "full of grace and truth." John 1:14 KJV. But Rome says Mary is "full of grace." Who's right?
Scripture says that both are full of grace.  Mary is described as "kecharitomene" (Luke 1:28).  Always full of grace.

1:28  καὶ εἰσελθὼν ὁ ἄγγελος πρὸς αὐτὴν εἶπεν Χαῖρε κεχαριτωμένη ὁ κύριος μετὰ σοῦ εὐλογημένη σὺ ἐν γυναιξίν

Do you deny it?
D
Romanism has this legacy from the accommodation to get pagans in the church. But its another obstacle that prevent a person from getting saved by going directly to Jesus Christ. Mary isn't a mediator (1 Tim. 2:5).
Yes, she is.  We are all mediators, in fact.  Jesus is the One Mediator between God and man BY NATURE.   We are mediators by God's grace.  Have you not read in Scripture?

Matthew 5:16
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Have you not also read:

1 Timothy 4:16
Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

But Mary is greatest of God's co-workers because she alone gave birth to our Saviour.


The "fruit" will be seen on the day when countless are cast into hell. Is Marian devotion worth that price? 
Uh?  We aren't worried.  But you should be.  Let me explain.  Scripture tells us that all those beloved of Christ are children of Mary.

First:
John 19:26-28
26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home. 28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.

Catholics are taught to read Scripture as though God was speaking to us. Now, are you a beloved disciple of Christ? To put it differently, are you a disciple whom Jesus loves?

Catholics would answer, "Yes" to that question and therefore accept Jesus command to take Mary as our mother and bring her into our home (i.e. heart).

For the second part of this explanation, you need to be aware of other verses in Scripture.
Genesis 3:15
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The seed of the Woman is not just Jesus. Let me show you:
Revelation 12:17
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Do you consider yourself someone who keeps the Commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus? If so, then you are seed or a child of the Woman. That Woman is Mary. And therefore, Scripture says that all who fight the good fight on behalf of God in Christ, are children of Mary.

But you reject Mary and therefore reject the love of Christ who has made you her son.

Sincerely,

De Maria