One Roman Catholic Tradition

Lutero,You said to Tomas:One Roman Catholic tradition names a limbo for children who die before their baptisms or die outside of the Roman Catholic religion. Ir is removed from the CCC after Ratzinger became pope. There is no biblical support for this view, however. It is merely a religious opinion (not official Catholic teaching) which has been handed down by Catholic theologians.

You’ve answered your own question. It is a theological opinion.

Read the document http://www.catholicdoors.com/courses/salvatio.htm especially what the popes infallibly stated on Salvation outside the Catholic Church and other issues.

Its an excellent website.  But it is not official teaching of the Catholic Church.  I go by what the Church teaches:

“Outside the Church there is no salvation”846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336

The closest biblical account for a “limbo” concerns “Abraham’s bosom” and “paradise” in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31).

But didn’t you just deny that Limbo existed?

Although it is a parable to teach a truth concerning prophecies declaring the kingdom of God, the places mentioned must exist or Jesus would not have used them.

There you go. Limbo is the same as Purgatory.

Parables are not based upon imaginary objects and locations, but on things which are real.

Here are the other things which are real in that account.
1. The Saints speak.
2. The Saints are aware of the people on earth.
3. The Saints recognize the authority of other Saints.
4. The Saints are concerned for the welfare of their brethren on earth.
5. The Saints care for each other in the afterlife and have a relationship.

So before the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, there were two places souls went upon death. One place is at the side of Abraham (often described as Abraham’s bosom); this would be for people who died in faith in God’s promised Messiah, just as Abraham did, and were declared righteous by faith (Genesis 15:4-6; Romans 4:13-24).

God doesn’t change. Those places continue to exist to this day. At the Judgement, they will be cast into the Lake of Fire.

Those who died in unbelief went to a place of torment. The Greek word used is hades and probably is the best Greek word for the Jewish sheol, literally “the lowest pit.” It is clearly a place of great torment.

Yes. A temporary place of great torment. Purgatory is the other name for it.

But this is also a temporary limbo. These souls will appear at the second resurrection before the great white throne of Revelation 20:11-13. These people are not in the Book of Life because they do not have eternal life through faith in Christ, and they are cast into their final destination in the “Lake of Fire / Gehenna.”

Correct. They do not have eternal life through faith in Christ because they either did not have enough faith to submit t Baptism. Or if they did submit to Baptism, they did not believe in it (Mark 16:16). Therefore, they are not written in the book of life, unless they labored for the Kingdom of God and kept the Ten Commandments.

The idea of limbo as a realm in between heaven and hell, sort of another purgatory, is not biblical.

You just proved that it is.

If there is any sort of a limbo, it is the temporary holding place of the wicked (Hades / Sheol), which will eventually be emptied into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15).

It is also a temporary holding place for the righteous. As you proved.

The tone of your post dated implied that “..Being SO many” – implied worthless and without truth and also what the popes infallibly taught.

You certainly read a great deal into those 3 little words. Tomas said there a many Protestant denominations and you interpret that to mean that he has judged them all condemned?

WOW???!!!

Sincerely,

De Maria