Soooo? You don't know if you're saved?

DS:  I get tired of this blatant lie. You deny Scripture and you call God a liar. We do NOT judge ourselves saved.

Soooo? You don't know if you're saved?

You're arguing a straw man.

So, you don't consider yourself saved?

We believe and do what God says to do to be saved in His word.

You do something to be saved? So, why do you complain that we do too?

And then His own word tells us that we can know we have eternal life yet you keep insisting that we cannot know.

Let's look at that verse in more context:1 John 5
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1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.


2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.


3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.


4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.


So, the faithful are those who keep the Commandments.


5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?


And they who have proven their faith AND LOVE of Christ by keeping the Commandments, overcome the world.

6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. 9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 

Sooo, IF, you believe in God and keep His Commandments, then you know you have eternal life. That's the context before this verse. 
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Do you keep His Commandments?

Now just who are we to believe, you or God?

God:1 Corinthians 4:5
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5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

Stop with this nonsense. I am saved, not because I declare it, but because it's so due to my coming to Christ and believing on Him and the Spirit's witness to mine.

Then you have judged yourself. You may have your reward. I will await God's judgement upon me.

Now keep calling God a liar if you want to but the Bible doesn't agree iwith you.

The Bible doesn't agree with you picking a verse out of context.

1 John 5:13

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¹³ These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.Sincerely,

De Maria

It is God who Judges

Luther:

Catholics don't know Jesus,

There you go, usurping God's Judgement. 

Romans 14:4

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⁴ Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.


Whether I know Jesus or not, is not for you to decide. It is God who Judges:

1 Corinthians 4:3-4

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³ But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
⁴ For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.

they have no assurance in Salvation.

WE have a true hope of salvation because we keep the Commandments of God. 

Psalm 119:166

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¹⁶⁶ Lord, I have hoped for thy salvation, and done thy commandments.

But you refuse to keep the Commandments and thereby condemn yourself:
Mark 7:9

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⁹ And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Jesus did not come and die for us to play guessing games.

No, He didn't. We don't sit around guessing about our salvation either. We simply don't presume to tell God what to do.

It is Protestants who guess at their salvation and even, as you have above, presume to condemn other folks. As for us, we place complete reliance upon God.

Jn.3:16 Whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life
Jn.11:25,26 I am the resurrection and the life...whosoever believeth in Me shall never die
Acts 16:31 Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved
Rom.10:9,10 If thou shalt...believe in thine heart...thou shalt be saved
1Jn.5:1a Whosoever believeth Jesus is the Christ is born of God

Show me where any of those say that YOU are the judge of whether you or anyone else is saved.

Sincerely,

De Maria